Beliefs with no evidence

[CabriniGreen]

Paul Castellano ordered his members not to get involved in the war, Nino Inzerillo got involved in the war, so Castellano ordered both American and Sicilian Gambino members to kill him. That was Castellano's decision.

Lol...bro seriously. How does he even get killed if Sicily don't request it? Or if he never goes there? And why did John have to go talk to Riina if it was Castellanos call?

Never mind bro ... I don't really feel like arguing.....

[johnny_scootch]

Gotti hated Carlo? I don't think I've ever heard that one before.

You never saw the transcripts where he calls Carlo a rat fucker? A back door mutherfucker?

Is this from when Gotti was already in prison for the rest of his life? He didn’t have a kind word for anyone at that point even his children he was a very bitter man.

On the other topic

Inzerillo Murder

- By 1980 Gambino Family's Sicilian crew headed by Antonino 'Nino' Inzerillo.

- In October 1981 Inzerillo disappeared. Gravano not involved in murder but briefly discussed circumstances with Boss Paul Castellano: "[Castellano mentioned] the fact that Nino Inzerillo was a capodecina over here with us and obviously doing business in Italy, not only in a high position but in a war trying to take over a Family, and that Italy had reached him from a lot of different sources."

- Later received more detailed information from Soldier Frank DeCicco: "[DeCicco] told me that Nino Inzerillo was involved in the Italian mob, he was involved in a war that was going on in Italy, the Italian Families reached Castellano and asked him if he had the support of the Gambino Family [in] what he was doing in Italy. I believe Castellano got this from three or four different sources [including John Gambino]. He ordered the hit on Nino Inzerillo. Frank DeCicco was the shooter along with others [and Gambino] was involved in setting up Nino Inzerillo."

[motorfab]

I was about to write it, but Johnny was faster than me.

Cabrini, perhaps you're confusing him with Pietro Inzerillo, was killed a year after Nino (January 1982), and unlike Nino he was a member of Cosa Nostra in Sicily and his murder was ordered from there. His cousin Tommaso is widely suspected of being involved in the murder.

[cobra]

- rosario naimo testimony
- nino arrived to the deli of casamento in brooklyn
- inside waiting: naimo, john gambino, frank decicco, joe watts, "joey", "albertino"
- joe watts guys shot nino using guns with silencers

[Boatdrinks]

A lot of stories told about Vito Genovese are not true!

[B.]

Paul Castellano ordered his members not to get involved in the war, Nino Inzerillo got involved in the war, so Castellano ordered both American and Sicilian Gambino members to kill him. That was Castellano's decision.

Lol...bro seriously. How does he even get killed if Sicily don't request it? Or if he never goes there? And why did John have to go talk to Riina if it was Castellanos call?

Never mind bro ... I don't really feel like arguing.....

He gets killed because his boss Paul Castellano told him not to involve himself in a Sicilian mafia conflict and he did anyway. The Corleonese faction wanted Inzerillo dead but it was Castellano's directive not to get involved and it was Castellano who ordered his murder using a team from Castellano's Family. Greco-Riina-Riccobono didn't have the right to tell Castellano what to do and even though it benefited them it was Castellano's decision to kill a capodecina from his own Family.

John Gambino had to get Paul Castellano's approval to go to Sicily to meet with anyone and Naimo confirmed this. Gambino also got Castellano's approval to go meet with Rosario Riccobono after Antonino Inzerillo's murder to petition for Giuseppe Inzerillo's life. Giuseppe was a member of the Passo di Rigano Family (Nino's brother and Totuccio's father) living in NJ and it was during Gambino's visit that Riccobono called Giuseppe Inzerillo asking for Buscetta's whereabouts, the idea being that if Giuseppe gave up Buscetta he would save his own life. But point being, John Gambino was following Castellano's directives which is why he survived this period while his brother-in-law did not.

[Honk]

Al Capone’ hideouts!

I grew up in the Midwest along the Mississippi and every town in W IL and E IA has bars, hotel, islands on the river that were supposedly one his hideouts.

Apparently the guy had no less than 23,000 hideouts.

[CabriniGreen]

I was about to write it, but Johnny was faster than me.

Cabrini, perhaps you're confusing him with Pietro Inzerillo, was killed a year after Nino (January 1982), and unlike Nino he was a member of Cosa Nostra in Sicily and his murder was ordered from there. His cousin Tommaso is widely suspected of being involved in the murder.

No he got killed for stealing money or something. No one confuses Pietro with Nino, yall gone stop playing with me...lol. All this shit has been on the boards...

Nino Inzerillo shows up in Sicily, and they don't know if he came himself or was SENT by the Gambino Family to intervene. Thats why they sent word to Castellano, they asked him DID YOU SEND THIS GUY?

They sent word to Castellano. You all just basically outlined what I said, yet still finding reasons to disagree.
Sicily requested him killed. It was just convenient for the Americans to do it.

[B.]

What part of it are you having issue with?

Castellano didn't kill John Gambino, Pietro Inzerillo (Nino and Giuseppe's brother), or any number of other Inzerillo clan members in and around the Gambino Family even though I'm sure Greco and Riina would have been happy to have them killed as well. He killed Nino Inzerillo because Nino defied his boss's order not to intervene in the Sicilian war. We know from Naimo that John Gambino in contrast did exactly what he was told to do and when he did try to help his relatives he followed protocol and did it the proper way. He also killed his own relative Nino Inzerillo when ordered because Inzerillo did the opposite of what he was told to do.

Castellano was immensely wealthy, had a Family of 200-300 members, and thousands of associates -- he was arguably more powerful than anyone in the Sicilian mafia -- it's not like Greco or Riina could force him to kill a captain of his own Family just because they were out to remove the Inzerillos from power in Palermo. Inzerillo was specifically killed because he defied his boss's orders and was meddling in a Sicilian mafia conflict. His actions made Castellano look bad and had the potential to entangle the Gambino Family in an international conflict so Castellano had him killed. It was mutually beneficial in that Castellano got rid of a rogue capodecina who wasn't listening to his boss and Greco/Riina got rid of a powerful Inzerillo relative.

Members of American Families aren't allowed to meddle in the affairs of Sicilian Families and vice versa. Nino Inzerillo didn't just defy Castellano, he was breaking a long-established rule designed to preserve the autonomy of the American and Sicilian branches of Cosa Nostra.

[motorfab]

B, Pietro was the nephew of Nino & Giuseppe. But there was another Pietro who was indeed their brother, he died in 2007 in Staten Island.

Cabrini, I wasn't play with you at all

[CabriniGreen]

B, Pietro was the nephew of Nino & Giuseppe. But there was another Pietro who was indeed their brother, he died in 2007 in Staten Island.

Cabrini, I wasn't play with you at all

That was a joke my man....lol

Sometimes the nuances of dialect or language can get lost in text....Make no mistake... I'm still seeing this as a fun thread.....

Come on now..... we are the guys debating endlessly about Jordan or LeBron in the barbershop. We just talk mob shit..... it's all fun bro....

[CabriniGreen]

What part of it are you having issue with?

Castellano didn't kill John Gambino, Pietro Inzerillo (Nino and Giuseppe's brother), or any number of other Inzerillo clan members in and around the Gambino Family even though I'm sure Greco and Riina would have been happy to have them killed as well. He killed Nino Inzerillo because Nino defied his boss's order not to intervene in the Sicilian war. We know from Naimo that John Gambino in contrast did exactly what he was told to do and when he did try to help his relatives he followed protocol and did it the proper way. He also killed his own relative Nino Inzerillo when ordered because Inzerillo did the opposite of what he was told to do.

Castellano was immensely wealthy, had a Family of 200-300 members, and thousands of associates -- he was arguably more powerful than anyone in the Sicilian mafia -- it's not like Greco or Riina could force him to kill a captain of his own Family just because they were out to remove the Inzerillos from power in Palermo. Inzerillo was specifically killed because he defied his boss's orders and was meddling in a Sicilian mafia conflict. His actions made Castellano look bad and had the potential to entangle the Gambino Family in an international conflict so Castellano had him killed. It was mutually beneficial in that Castellano got rid of a rogue capodecina who wasn't listening to his boss and Greco/Riina got rid of a powerful Inzerillo relative.

Members of American Families aren't allowed to meddle in the affairs of Sicilian Families and vice versa. Nino Inzerillo didn't just defy Castellano, he was breaking a long-established rule designed to preserve the autonomy of the American and Sicilian branches of Cosa Nostra.

Lol...Profaci didn't mediate between the Grecos?

[motorfab]

All good amigo

Regarding Profaci and the Greco/Galatolo war I think it's a bit different situation: Antonino Cottone was formerly a member of his Crime Family, it's probably why he put his nose into it

[johnny_scootch]

Mediators are welcomed by both sides in a conflict while meddlers most certainly are not.

[CabriniGreen]

Mediators are welcomed by both sides in a conflict while meddlers most certainly are not.

That's a good point.