Debunking the myth of Murder, Inc.

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Re: Debunking the myth of Murder, Inc.

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chin_gigante wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:02 pm
aleksandrored wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:43 am So if Murder Inc is a myth then this list post on another topic is only from the gang of Jews?

"MURDER INC
City: New York
Time Period: 30's - 50's

1. Louis "Lou Lepke" Buchalter (The boss)
2. Albert "Mad Hatter" Anastasia (Italian member and Underboss until Lepke stepped down in 1930s)
3. Hyman "Curly" Holtz
4. Abe 'Kid Twist' Reles
5. Mendy Weiss
6. Vincent Mangano
7. Jacob "Gurrah" Shapiro
8. Martin "Bugzy" Goldstein
9. Frank "The Dasher" Abbandando
10. Charles "Charlie The Bug" Workman
11. Harry "Big Greenie" Greenburgh
12. Harry "Pittsburgh Phil" Strauss
13. Harry Maine (Italian member)
14. Joe Adonis (Italian member)
15. Joe Schafer
16. Seymour "Blue Jaw" Magoon (Irish member)
17. Sholem "Sol" Bernstein
18. Max "The Jerk" Golob
19. Louis "Shadows" Kravits
20. Hyman Yuran
21. Sam Gasberg
22. Philip "Little Farvel" Kovolick
23. Irving Nitzberg
24. Louis Capone (Italian member)
25. Louis "Lou" Cohen
26. Jacob "Jake" Drucker
27. Jacob Migden
What is called 'Murder Inc' is a number of Jewish gangs. There was the Buchalter organisation and I belueve Reles had his own gang. So definitely take out Mangano, Anastasia, Adonis and Capone. Reles had links to Capone and Capone was close to Anastasia so that's how that connection came about
Louis capone not al capone. Him and bugsy goldstein ran a gang togrther. The Shapiro brothers. Few others. Was Gus Greenbaum abother one?? He was friends with Bugsy. Was the Bugs and Meyer included? I don believe they were. Tney were in LES manhattan when most Murder Inc was brooklyn based as well.

The whole Anastia and Lepke boss situation is odd.i dont think Anastia was involved at all. Maybe he gave hits he wanted done to lepke bit i doubt he was ordering thrm and setting them up etc.

Lepke ran 3 big rackets... Garmet district,Murder inc and he was also big into heroin too.
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Re: Debunking the myth of Murder, Inc.

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This is a list furio stole from somewhere, it had zero creditability. Mangano being listed as having something to do with murder Inc is completely false. Murder Inc is simply the Brownsville Boys led by Reles who killed witnesses for Lepke, and many people they killed were linked directly to their own gang having nothing to do with Lepke at all. Weiss and Shapiro worked directly with Lepke in his garment center and drug rackets. One of Lepke's earliest arrests he was arrested with Shapiro. In FBI files covering the late 20s and early 30s the investigators considered Lepke and Luciano so close they described them as the 'Buckhalter-Luciano Mob.'
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Was Louis Capone made?
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Murder Incorporated was probably a media invention that prosecutor and author Burton Turkus used. He didn't understand the arrangement between the different gangs and criminal organizations, or his co-author Sid Feder (a sports writer) confused things. Murder Inc. was the arrangement between the top tier "gangs": The Vincent Mangano (now Gambino) crime family, the Luciano crime family (now Genovese), Lepke Buchalter/Jake Shapiro gang, and the Lansky-Siegel gang, from the point of view of a low-level mobster, Abe Reles. Turkus and Feder seemed to think they were one large gang.

As for Louis Capone, he was probably a caporegime or soldier under Mangano and Anastasia. We don't know for certain since he was executed before the FBI learned about the Mafia Families and hierarchies.
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Re: Debunking the myth of Murder, Inc.

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Antiliar wrote: Thu Nov 22, 2018 9:24 pm Murder Incorporated was probably a media invention that prosecutor and author Burton Turkus used. He didn't understand the arrangement between the different gangs and criminal organizations, or his co-author Sid Feder (a sports writer) confused things. Murder Inc. was the arrangement between the top tier "gangs": The Vincent Mangano (now Gambino) crime family, the Luciano crime family (now Genovese), Lepke Buchalter/Jake Shapiro gang, and the Lansky-Siegel gang, from the point of view of a low-level mobster, Abe Reles. Turkus and Feder seemed to think they were one large gang.

As for Louis Capone, he was probably a caporegime or soldier under Mangano and Anastasia. We don't know for certain since he was executed before the FBI learned about the Mafia Families and hierarchies.
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