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Laurentian wrote: Thu Sep 20, 2018 3:46 am A suspect in the murder of Angelo Musitano, in May 2017, has been arrested by Hamilton Police, as well in the case of Mila Barberi, and in the attempted murder of Saverio Serrano. A press conference will be held later in the day at 11:00 o'clock, am.
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antimafia wrote: Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:54 am
antimafia wrote: Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:41 am Paul Manning seems to have known who was involved in Musitano's murder, as well as what happened to some of the the suspects in Mexico earlier this year. Go to https://twitter.com/markalanwhittle/sta ... 3269522432 -- a tweet from April 7, 2018 -- and follow the thread, including replies.
^^^^
Manning made a post on a news website today -- you can see his tweet there. Last April, he essentially knew that Ranieri was killed the month before, as was Cudmore.

https://www.exaronews.com/arrest-made-i ... la-barberi
@SonnyI know you had questions about the reliability of Manning. It seems this suggests he is in the know. Does it lend credibility to what he told Edwards about Buffalo?
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antimafia wrote: Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:54 am
antimafia wrote: Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:41 am Paul Manning seems to have known who was involved in Musitano's murder, as well as what happened to some of the the suspects in Mexico earlier this year. Go to https://twitter.com/markalanwhittle/sta ... 3269522432 -- a tweet from April 7, 2018 -- and follow the thread, including replies.
^^^^
Manning made a post on a news website today -- you can see his tweet there. Last April, he essentially knew that Ranieri was killed the month before, as was Cudmore.

https://www.exaronews.com/arrest-made-i ... la-barberi
Antimafi and Laurentian- thanks for all the links and info.
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Arrests made in Mila Barberi, Angelo Musitano mob-hit murders

https://www.yorkregion.com/news-story/8 ... it-murders
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Peter Edwards's latest article:

Hamilton man arrested in 2 mob-related slayings

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2018/0 ... thers.html
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I know we have been down this road before, but could Manning and Edwards be referring to the Johnny Pops faction of the Buffalo Family. Maybe the Family isn't that active in Buffalo, but is in the Toronto area, but still called the Buffalo Family?? Wasn't Angelo Musitano meeting with Bruno Monnaco, who is in this faction that used to be run by Johnny Pops, the day before he was killed.
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Link farther below is to another article by Nicole O'Reilly of the Hamilton Spectator. A good timeline accompanies her story. I wanted to attach a PDF of the timeline so that posters could save it but I'm getting the following error message:

Invalid file extension: Scribd -- Nicole O'Reilly article -- 389076030-Scopa.pdf
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Hamilton man arrested in mobster Musitano murder, police hunt for two others

https://www.thespec.com/news-story/8913 ... two-others
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Adrian Humphreys has updated his article from earlier today:

Ontario police make arrest in high-profile gangland murders linked to Mafia 'power struggle'

http://nationalpost.com/wcm/e812bfb6-14 ... 480de2ae44
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I’m late to the party here, but when addressing Fino there are a few things to keep in mind.
1. First and foremost, he was outed as an informer in 1990. So it’s not like he could really have any groundbreaking knowledge of the family past that point. As I said on GBB, it would be akin to asking Sammy Gravano what the current hierarchy of the Gambino family is. All Gravano would be able to do is make an educated guess, and the same goes for Fino.
2. His direct quotes in Dan Herbeck’s article indicate that he wasn’t misrepresented. He has clearly changed his script on the Buffalo mob.
3. He was exposed by defense lawyers in a case he was set to testify in, because he helped write a sensationalist, untrue article about OJ Simpson’s ties to the mob back when OJ was grabbing headlines across the world. So he’s known to embellish things based on whoever’s paying him.
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I gotta ask some questions....

Did the Rizzutos initiate the Musitanos?
( Or, even stranger, maybe Buffalo did... But when would that have been, right around the time Papalia was hit? )

Are all the Hamilton- Niagra Falls guys Buffalo people? If the Violis are, this would make sense to me...

When the Rizzutos were under siege, did this weaken the Musitanos backing? Emboldening the Naigra Falls people?

Would Buffalo take the ( unmade) Musitanos side over their own crew? Is this what happened with Papalia?

I noticed they first said Todaro. Now they dont wanna name the guys pulling the strings until they got a kill shot. Interesting.....

How do the Hamilton/Niagra groups fit together? ( These guys are screaming to be put in a chart..)

The Musitanos, Luppino-Violis, Niagra falls ( they hinted at at least 2 groups there...) how do they fit with Montreal? And where do the Bonnanos come in, as the NY family? Or could that also possibly be Gambino people?
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"Accusé de deux meurtres en Ontario et de vol au Québec"

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/ ... -au-quebec

This is an article about Michael Graham Cudmore, one of the suspects in the Musitano murder. Cudmore was scheduled to appear in Longueuil (South Shore of Montréal) in June 22, 2017, to answer to a charge theft of an automobile. As we all know now, he never appeared in Court.
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gohnjotti wrote: Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:07 pm I’m late to the party here, but when addressing Fino there are a few things to keep in mind.
1. First and foremost, he was outed as an informer in 1990. So it’s not like he could really have any groundbreaking knowledge of the family past that point. As I said on GBB, it would be akin to asking Sammy Gravano what the current hierarchy of the Gambino family is. All Gravano would be able to do is make an educated guess, and the same goes for Fino.
2. His direct quotes in Dan Herbeck’s article indicate that he wasn’t misrepresented. He has clearly changed his script on the Buffalo mob.
3. He was exposed by defense lawyers in a case he was set to testify in, because he helped write a sensationalist, untrue article about OJ Simpson’s ties to the mob back when OJ was grabbing headlines across the world. So he’s known to embellish things based on whoever’s paying him.
Let me ask this: When Peter Edwards says, "The Buffalo Mob is not dead, despite what some media reports." What media reports have you seen saying the Buffalo Mob is dead? The only recent one I know of is Dan Herbeck's March 2018 article. Is this the one he is referencing? Is he directly challenging it? If so, why?

I challenge it because it doesn't reflect Fino's consistent statements... In my opinion, Fino has demonstrated a continuity of thought on the topic... I posted why on GBB... Moreover he in a recent interview he says something to the affect that you can't believe everything you we can't always believe what we read in the newspapers even though the reporters are often "well meaninged" in their mistakes.

I wonder who he may have in mind when he says this. Is it referring to Herbeck?
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Sorry this should say "You can't believe everything your read in the newspapers, even though the reporters are well-meaninged in their mistakes."
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