Lawrence Ricci Murder

[slimshady_007]

In late 2005 genovese acting capo Lawrence Ricci was murdered supposedly on orders of Genovese don Tino Fiumara. Ive read that Ricci was killed since he didnt want to plead guilty to some charges he was facing and instead wanted to go to trial. I think it was on BH that someone told me that a murder plot was goin to be revealed at Ricci’s trial, but i dont know if that is 100% true. I asked the same question on GBB but no one responded so id like to hear BH’s take on Ricci’s murder. Anyone have an idea of what might’ve caused Ricci to be killed?

[Pete]

I thought he was holding out and they were worried he was talking. and I thought the order came from Barney someone can correct me if I’m wrong

[slimshady_007]

I thought he was holding out and they were worried he was talking. and I thought the order came from Barney someone can correct me if I’m wrong

Where’d u hear that theory from?

[eboli]

Allegedly Ricci was skimming off the top from the union scam they were running with gambinos. He was later on charged for it and refused to take the deal. At the time of his death Chin was still alive, so most likely he gave the okay to Fiumara. Ricci was a captain under Tino in NJ. The feds tried to pin the Ricci murder on Mickey Coppola and his son after they taped a convo of him discussing how he disposed of the gun.

[slimshady_007]

Allegedly Ricci was skimming off the top from the union scam they were running with gambinos. He was later on charged for it and refused to take the deal. At the time of his death Chin was still alive, so most likely he gave the okay to Fiumara. Ricci was a captain under Tino in NJ. The feds tried to pin the Ricci murder on Mickey Coppola and his son after they taped a convo of him discussing how he disposed of the gun.

Why were the genoveses so concerned about Ricci not takin the plea deal?

[eboli]

Allegedly Ricci was skimming off the top from the union scam they were running with gambinos. He was later on charged for it and refused to take the deal. At the time of his death Chin was still alive, so most likely he gave the okay to Fiumara. Ricci was a captain under Tino in NJ. The feds tried to pin the Ricci murder on Mickey Coppola and his son after they taped a convo of him discussing how he disposed of the gun.

Why were the genoveses so concerned about Ricci not takin the plea deal?

The genovese were the first to implement the strategy for their guys to take plea deals and lesser sentences instead of going to trial and get decades in the can like the gambinos did during the Gotti era. If the story is true and Ricci was stuffing his pockets, they would lose face in front of gambinos since it was a joint racket. So it was two birds with one stone kind of situation. One thing's for certain - since Chin was alive he gave the okay for it.

[Teddy Persico]

Allegedly Ricci was skimming off the top from the union scam they were running with gambinos. He was later on charged for it and refused to take the deal. At the time of his death Chin was still alive, so most likely he gave the okay to Fiumara. Ricci was a captain under Tino in NJ. The feds tried to pin the Ricci murder on Mickey Coppola and his son after they taped a convo of him discussing how he disposed of the gun.

Why were the genoveses so concerned about Ricci not takin the plea deal?

It helps maintain the labor rackets. If he pleads out, nothing gets publicly revealed at trial. That keeps their labor rackets from being exposed. You plead guilty and limit the scope of what is made public. Union guys don't get a bad rap and the other details get get buried in an FBI file. Ricci believed the case against him was weak and that he could beat it (and he was right), but the higher ups only cared about keeping their rackets under the radar.

[slimshady_007]

Allegedly Ricci was skimming off the top from the union scam they were running with gambinos. He was later on charged for it and refused to take the deal. At the time of his death Chin was still alive, so most likely he gave the okay to Fiumara. Ricci was a captain under Tino in NJ. The feds tried to pin the Ricci murder on Mickey Coppola and his son after they taped a convo of him discussing how he disposed of the gun.

Why were the genoveses so concerned about Ricci not takin the plea deal?

The genovese were the first to implement the strategy for their guys to take plea deals and lesser sentences instead of going to trial and get decades in the can like the gambinos did during the Gotti era. If the story is true and Ricci was stuffing his pockets, they would lose face in front of gambinos since it was a joint racket. So it was two birds with one stone kind of situation. One thing's for certain - since Chin was alive he gave the okay for it.

Idk if chin ok’d the murder since I believe he was very sick around this time. Chin died in December 05, and Ricci was killed in October 05.

[slimshady_007]

Allegedly Ricci was skimming off the top from the union scam they were running with gambinos. He was later on charged for it and refused to take the deal. At the time of his death Chin was still alive, so most likely he gave the okay to Fiumara. Ricci was a captain under Tino in NJ. The feds tried to pin the Ricci murder on Mickey Coppola and his son after they taped a convo of him discussing how he disposed of the gun.

Why were the genoveses so concerned about Ricci not takin the plea deal?

It helps maintain the labor rackets. If he pleads out, nothing gets publicly revealed at trial. That keeps their labor rackets from being exposed. You plead guilty and limit the scope of what is made public. Union guys don't get a bad rap and the other details get get buried in an FBI file. Ricci believed the case against him was weak and that he could beat it (and he was right), but the higher ups only cared about keeping their rackets under the radar.

I remember some of Ricci’s codefendents went on to go to trial. I wonder if that move got them any heat from Fiumara and other higher ups.

[Rocco]

Allegedly Ricci was skimming off the top from the union scam they were running with gambinos. He was later on charged for it and refused to take the deal. At the time of his death Chin was still alive, so most likely he gave the okay to Fiumara. Ricci was a captain under Tino in NJ. The feds tried to pin the Ricci murder on Mickey Coppola and his son after they taped a convo of him discussing how he disposed of the gun.

Why were the genoveses so concerned about Ricci not takin the plea deal?

The westside doesn't like the idea of made men sitting next to union officials at the defense table. They wants Ricci to take a 5yr plea deal to avoid him sitting next to union officials. He refused went to trial so they clipped him. Rewind to 1988 and the Bayonne waterfront trial of Johnny D.(Genovese soldier). Genovese leadership wanted him to take a plea deal and avoid trial. He refused went to trial represented himself along side union leaders. He was found not guilty the union leaders were convicted so they killed him. The murder of johnny D should have served as a lesson to Ricci but I guess his memory was not that good.

[eboli]

Idk if chin ok’d the murder since I believe he was very sick around this time. Chin died in December 05, and Ricci was killed in October 05.

Chin was doing better before his sudden death. They were expecting him to do the time, get out and restructure the family. Then he died and the plans changed to wait out Bellomo.

[Rocco]

Allegedly Ricci was skimming off the top from the union scam they were running with gambinos. He was later on charged for it and refused to take the deal. At the time of his death Chin was still alive, so most likely he gave the okay to Fiumara. Ricci was a captain under Tino in NJ. The feds tried to pin the Ricci murder on Mickey Coppola and his son after they taped a convo of him discussing how he disposed of the gun.

Why were the genoveses so concerned about Ricci not takin the plea deal?

It helps maintain the labor rackets. If he pleads out, nothing gets publicly revealed at trial. That keeps their labor rackets from being exposed. You plead guilty and limit the scope of what is made public. Union guys don't get a bad rap and the other details get get buried in an FBI file. Ricci believed the case against him was weak and that he could beat it (and he was right), but the higher ups only cared about keeping their rackets under the radar.

I remember some of Ricci’s codefendents went on to go to trial. I wonder if that move got them any heat from Fiumara and other higher ups.

I don't think Chin had a say in this murder. Whomever was boss on the street prob okay'd with Coppola or Tino and it was done. Chin was pretty sick at this point and in a prison hospital bed with heart issues his last 8 mos. There was word that Ricci was getting to comfortable with his acting capo status as well. So there was a little power struggle going on there as well. Tino was on restrictions and Coppola was still in the shadows at the time Ricci was acting capo.

[moneyman]

What was the relationship between Anthony Palumbo and Tino shortly before Tino's death? Palumbo gets Tino's crew in 06 if I recall correctly. Palumbo has a roots in NJ, he is the nephew of Andy Gerado... makes me think he was involved in the Ricci murder in some capacity.

Does anyone know when Depiro was made? Perhaps he gets his button for clipping Ricci. He was the only made guy involved in the 2011 Christmas kickback bust that I remember.

The Tino/NJ Waterfront crew is super interesting... one of the more secretive crews and probably one of the more profitable. They have a known associate (Harold Daggett) as president of the ILA-Union.

[slimshady_007]

Allegedly Ricci was skimming off the top from the union scam they were running with gambinos. He was later on charged for it and refused to take the deal. At the time of his death Chin was still alive, so most likely he gave the okay to Fiumara. Ricci was a captain under Tino in NJ. The feds tried to pin the Ricci murder on Mickey Coppola and his son after they taped a convo of him discussing how he disposed of the gun.

Why were the genoveses so concerned about Ricci not takin the plea deal?

It helps maintain the labor rackets. If he pleads out, nothing gets publicly revealed at trial. That keeps their labor rackets from being exposed. You plead guilty and limit the scope of what is made public. Union guys don't get a bad rap and the other details get get buried in an FBI file. Ricci believed the case against him was weak and that he could beat it (and he was right), but the higher ups only cared about keeping their rackets under the radar.

I remember some of Ricci’s codefendents went on to go to trial. I wonder if that move got them any heat from Fiumara and other higher ups.

I don't think Chin had a say in this murder. Whomever was boss on the street prob okay'd with Coppola or Tino and it was done. Chin was pretty sick at this point and in a prison hospital bed with heart issues his last 8 mos. There was word that Ricci was getting to comfortable with his acting capo status as well. So there was a little power struggle going on there as well. Tino was on restrictions and Coppola was still in the shadows at the time Ricci was acting capo.

It could very well be possible that Fiumara was on the family’s street panel at the time. That is if there was a panel.

[slimshady_007]

What was the relationship between Anthony Palumbo and Tino shortly before Tino's death? Palumbo gets Tino's crew in 06 if I recall correctly. Palumbo has a roots in NJ, he is the nephew of Andy Gerado... makes me think he was involved in the Ricci murder in some capacity.

Does anyone know when Depiro was made? Perhaps he gets his button for clipping Ricci. He was the only made guy involved in the 2011 Christmas kickback bust that I remember.

The Tino/NJ Waterfront crew is super interesting... one of the more secretive crews and probably one of the more profitable. They have a known associate (Harold Daggett) as president of the ILA-Union.

If palumbo got tino’s crew, then what position did Fiumara take?