Could someone explain how someone who isn't of Italian heritage go so close to people high up in two different families? Decavalcante and Gambinos.
How common is it for a non-italian associate to move up high and wield some power like he did?
Or was his story and facts all bullshit?
Richard Kuklinski
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Re: Richard Kuklinski
Come on santos. You're better than this.
The following is a Gang Land article from Jul. 6, 2006:
Not that anyone has taken a poll, but the most storied mob hits of the past 30 years, hand down, were the rubouts of ex-Teamsters Union President Jimmy Hoffa, former Mafia boss Paul Castellano, (right) and cigar chomping Bonanno gangster Carmine (Lilo) Galante. Photos of the murdered Galante – his stogie still clenched in his teeth – are so perfectly Mafia-esque that The New York Times ran one again this week.
Bearing that in mind, consider the following scenario:
A monstrous hulk of a man, who has never been linked to any of the slayings, or Murdered Carmine Galante any of the many well-known suspects, claims to have been on the scene of all those slayings, inflicting the fatal blows to Hoffa, Galante, (left) and Big Paul's bodyguard, Thomas Billotti.
More improbable, this wily, heretofore unknown mob assassin also claims to have murdered Roy DeMeo, the prolific kill-crazy Gambino mobster who was so-feared by his peers that John Gotti – a few years before he directed Castellano's demise – begged off when Big Paul asked him to whack DeMeo.
And to make this story even more improbable, let's say that our Forrest Gump of mob hits – a six-foot five, 300-pound bearded behemoth – claims to have murdered 200 people for fun Richard (The Ice Man) Kuklinski and profit during his dark career, including a Queens man who killed Gotti's 12-year-old son in a car accident.
Ladies and gentlemen, meet Richard Kuklinski, (right) the star of a new book by Philip Carlo, a tome that pushes the envelope in the book store genre known as "true crime."
Carlo's "The Ice Man: Confessions of a Mafia Contract Killer," runs more than 400 pages. It is based on hundreds of hours of what can only generously be termed as Kuklinski's mostly demented ramblings.
According to the Kuklinski/Carlo version of events: In 1975, the Ice Man killed Hoffa with a knife, then drove his body from a Detroit suburb to Kearny, N.J. where it was doused with gasoline and set afire in a garbage dump. In 1979, he used a shotgun to kill Galante just as a mob backup hit team got to Joe & Mary Italian-American Restaurant in Brooklyn. DeMeo, his best bud at the time, served as his wheelman. Roy DeMeo
A few years later, it was DeMeo's turn, and the Ice Man blew him away. And in 1985, Kuklinski claimed to have been part of the most daring mob rubout in recent history, the midtown Manhattan shootings of Castellano and Billotti at rush hour during the height of the Christmas shopping season. The order came from Salvatore (Sammy Bull) Gravano, who had replaced DeMeo (left) as the Ice Man's main mobster.
Wearing a big fur hat Gravano gave him – it made him "look seven feet tall" – ...and talks Kuklinski told Carlo that he shot Billotti to death, then escaped the city's gridlocked streets by hailing a cab. The breathless account leaves many questions unanswered, among them, why Kuklinski, who bragged about many of his alleged exploits on an HBO special several years ago, omitted this prestigious hit from his resume.
Unfortunately, the Ice Man won't be supplying any answers. In March, Kuklinski, whose health had been failing since last fall – he'd been in state prison since 1986 – died at age 70 from what New Jersey authorities said were natural causes.
Record Of Hackensack, Danielle Richards His departure wasn't completely unlamented. Bergen County Prosecutor John Molinelli had used the Ice Man's fanciful version of history to indict Gravano (left) for the murder of a corrupt NYPD detective. With his key witness gone, Molinelli immediately dismissed the charges, a move that saved the county the cost – and likely embarrassment – of a public trial.
For writer Carlo, however, Kuklinski's death, coming shortly after his manuscript was completed but pre-publication, appears to have stoked even more fevered speculation. In an epilogue, Carlo questions the official cause of death and raises concerns that "Richard was poisoned."
In the final pages, Carlo quotes Kuklinski as telling his wife Barbara – who the publisher notes is available for an interview – that "they're trying to kill me," and stating later in the same visit: "If I don't leave the (prison) hospital, it's because I The Ice Man Talkswas murdered."
Who knows? Bergen County's prosecutors could yet have a Kuklinski murder trial. Carlo, who is in southern Italy writing another book, did not respond to Gang Land's email or phone messages to discuss that possible case.
The following is a Gang Land article from Jul. 6, 2006:
Not that anyone has taken a poll, but the most storied mob hits of the past 30 years, hand down, were the rubouts of ex-Teamsters Union President Jimmy Hoffa, former Mafia boss Paul Castellano, (right) and cigar chomping Bonanno gangster Carmine (Lilo) Galante. Photos of the murdered Galante – his stogie still clenched in his teeth – are so perfectly Mafia-esque that The New York Times ran one again this week.
Bearing that in mind, consider the following scenario:
A monstrous hulk of a man, who has never been linked to any of the slayings, or Murdered Carmine Galante any of the many well-known suspects, claims to have been on the scene of all those slayings, inflicting the fatal blows to Hoffa, Galante, (left) and Big Paul's bodyguard, Thomas Billotti.
More improbable, this wily, heretofore unknown mob assassin also claims to have murdered Roy DeMeo, the prolific kill-crazy Gambino mobster who was so-feared by his peers that John Gotti – a few years before he directed Castellano's demise – begged off when Big Paul asked him to whack DeMeo.
And to make this story even more improbable, let's say that our Forrest Gump of mob hits – a six-foot five, 300-pound bearded behemoth – claims to have murdered 200 people for fun Richard (The Ice Man) Kuklinski and profit during his dark career, including a Queens man who killed Gotti's 12-year-old son in a car accident.
Ladies and gentlemen, meet Richard Kuklinski, (right) the star of a new book by Philip Carlo, a tome that pushes the envelope in the book store genre known as "true crime."
Carlo's "The Ice Man: Confessions of a Mafia Contract Killer," runs more than 400 pages. It is based on hundreds of hours of what can only generously be termed as Kuklinski's mostly demented ramblings.
According to the Kuklinski/Carlo version of events: In 1975, the Ice Man killed Hoffa with a knife, then drove his body from a Detroit suburb to Kearny, N.J. where it was doused with gasoline and set afire in a garbage dump. In 1979, he used a shotgun to kill Galante just as a mob backup hit team got to Joe & Mary Italian-American Restaurant in Brooklyn. DeMeo, his best bud at the time, served as his wheelman. Roy DeMeo
A few years later, it was DeMeo's turn, and the Ice Man blew him away. And in 1985, Kuklinski claimed to have been part of the most daring mob rubout in recent history, the midtown Manhattan shootings of Castellano and Billotti at rush hour during the height of the Christmas shopping season. The order came from Salvatore (Sammy Bull) Gravano, who had replaced DeMeo (left) as the Ice Man's main mobster.
Wearing a big fur hat Gravano gave him – it made him "look seven feet tall" – ...and talks Kuklinski told Carlo that he shot Billotti to death, then escaped the city's gridlocked streets by hailing a cab. The breathless account leaves many questions unanswered, among them, why Kuklinski, who bragged about many of his alleged exploits on an HBO special several years ago, omitted this prestigious hit from his resume.
Unfortunately, the Ice Man won't be supplying any answers. In March, Kuklinski, whose health had been failing since last fall – he'd been in state prison since 1986 – died at age 70 from what New Jersey authorities said were natural causes.
Record Of Hackensack, Danielle Richards His departure wasn't completely unlamented. Bergen County Prosecutor John Molinelli had used the Ice Man's fanciful version of history to indict Gravano (left) for the murder of a corrupt NYPD detective. With his key witness gone, Molinelli immediately dismissed the charges, a move that saved the county the cost – and likely embarrassment – of a public trial.
For writer Carlo, however, Kuklinski's death, coming shortly after his manuscript was completed but pre-publication, appears to have stoked even more fevered speculation. In an epilogue, Carlo questions the official cause of death and raises concerns that "Richard was poisoned."
In the final pages, Carlo quotes Kuklinski as telling his wife Barbara – who the publisher notes is available for an interview – that "they're trying to kill me," and stating later in the same visit: "If I don't leave the (prison) hospital, it's because I The Ice Man Talkswas murdered."
Who knows? Bergen County's prosecutors could yet have a Kuklinski murder trial. Carlo, who is in southern Italy writing another book, did not respond to Gang Land's email or phone messages to discuss that possible case.
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DPG
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Re: Richard Kuklinski
I read about half that damn book cause I was bored one day. And wow....I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't kill 5 people his whole life. The way he pretty much bragged about beating on his wife and causing half a dozens miscarriages. Couldn't go much further after claiming he killed Hoffa and Big Paul.
I get it....first rule of fight club.
Re: Richard Kuklinski
Wasn't he seen once at the Gemini Lounge?
Re: Richard Kuklinski
I don't know about that. But I did have a conversation with someone on this board a while ago who claimed that he is mentioned in Murder Machine but he absolutely is not mentioned in there once. Not a single time is Kuklinski mentioned in a very thorough book on the DeMeo crew.
Re: Richard Kuklinski
Why did HBO make a documentary on this fraud? Do they not do their research?
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SonnyBlackstein
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Re: Richard Kuklinski
Though Kuklinski later on in his prison years obviously made up a lot of bullshit to get attention there’s no doubt he did do a fuckload of horrible shit and killed many many people. The final number will always be unknown but many historical murders have been attributed to him and he’s likely responsible for the murders of dozens of people.
He was an evil fuck and not someone you’d want to piss off.
He was an evil fuck and not someone you’d want to piss off.
Don't give me your f***ing Manson lamps.
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slimshady_007
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Re: Richard Kuklinski
True. Id say kuklinski was more of a serial killer than a mafia hitman.SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:40 am Though Kuklinski later on in his prison years obviously made up a lot of bullshit to get attention there’s no doubt he did do a fuckload of horrible shit and killed many many people. The final number will always be unknown but many historical murders have been attributed to him and he’s likely responsible for the murders of dozens of people.
He was an evil fuck and not someone you’d want to piss off.
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