Mob Sitdown - Philly LCN Landscape in 2018

[NJShore4Life]

12 if you include Maniscalco

Chucky , do u know anything at all about Borgesi’s father? Was he ever in the picture/involved in the life or was Uncle Joe Borgesi’s surrogate Father (Uncle Joe is George’s Mom Manny is Uncle Joe’s younger sister)? You never hear anything at all about Borgesi’s Father....

[TJ]

Left them, has a different kid too.. not overly close with kids..the other brothers works for ange

[Rocco]

Agree. With Joey Electric and the Grande etc these guys might TEMPORARILY have pulled their heads in, but Borgeesi’s been the most aggressive wise guy since Teflon, he’ll live and die by the sword.

I thought the last report said Borgesi was legit into flipping homes or some shit? Now he is an active player? What did I miss?

I disagree that Borgeesi’s suddenly now ‘retired’.

Anastasia’s had Georgie boy as the most aggressive wg for the last twenty years. Making moves in the can, meets when’s he’s released, meets up and down the coast, disgruntled on losing his stripes,fighting to get them back, succeeding, sit downs, Lou monacello etc etc etc.
Now all of a sudden he’s a civilian?

I ‘doubt’ it.

So he is not going to get his own show on HGTV ? Former Mobster now flipping houses in South Jersey??

[JohnnyS]

Agree. With Joey Electric and the Grande etc these guys might TEMPORARILY have pulled their heads in, but Borgeesi’s been the most aggressive wise guy since Teflon, he’ll live and die by the sword.

I thought the last report said Borgesi was legit into flipping homes or some shit? Now he is an active player? What did I miss?

Borgesi is into flipping houses but he's not the only one. Renovating and selling is a big money maker in Philly right now. Borgesi has been seen doing walk and talks since he got out.

[joeycigars]

Agree. With Joey Electric and the Grande etc these guys might TEMPORARILY have pulled their heads in, but Borgeesi’s been the most aggressive wise guy since Teflon, he’ll live and die by the sword.

I thought the last report said Borgesi was legit into flipping homes or some shit? Now he is an active player? What did I miss?

Borgesi is into flipping houses but he's not the only one. Renovating and selling is a big money maker in Philly right now. Borgesi has been seen doing walk and talks since he got out.

Borgesi was active even in prison and called shots on the streets, I hand it to this guy he stays in the mix everybody knows he is around he aint taking any shorts , He got married to a nice looker ,George drove for Merlino for who the fuck knows why ( That Marty Bent finger thing had to be resolved ??), Did his time got slammed out the door big time ..beat the trial and now looks to be on his feet pretty solid ALL GOOD......, But he has bodies with other guys...And Borgesi brought rats that flipped around , And you cant undo that, When you cant undo somethings you stay close with your ear to the ground no matter how much legit money you make ,

[Stroccos]

Agree. With Joey Electric and the Grande etc these guys might TEMPORARILY have pulled their heads in, but Borgeesi’s been the most aggressive wise guy since Teflon, he’ll live and die by the sword.

I thought the last report said Borgesi was legit into flipping homes or some shit? Now he is an active player? What did I miss?

Borgesi is into flipping houses but he's not the only one. Renovating and selling is a big money maker in Philly right now. Borgesi has been seen doing walk and talks since he got out.

Borgesi was active even in prison and called shots on the streets, I hand it to this guy he stays in the mix everybody knows he is around he aint taking any shorts , He got married to a nice looker ,George drove for Merlino for who the fuck knows why ( That Marty Bent finger thing had to be resolved ??), Did his time got slammed out the door big time ..beat the trial and now looks to be on his feet pretty solid ALL GOOD......, But he has bodies with other guys...And Borgesi brought rats that flipped around , And you cant undo that, When you cant undo somethings you stay close with your ear to the ground no matter how much legit money you make ,

Maybe he doing a radio broadcast for wrat

[Fughedaboutit]

Agree. With Joey Electric and the Grande etc these guys might TEMPORARILY have pulled their heads in, but Borgeesi’s been the most aggressive wise guy since Teflon, he’ll live and die by the sword.

I thought the last report said Borgesi was legit into flipping homes or some shit? Now he is an active player? What did I miss?

Borgesi is into flipping houses but he's not the only one. Renovating and selling is a big money maker in Philly right now. Borgesi has been seen doing walk and talks since he got out.

Borgesi was active even in prison and called shots on the streets, I hand it to this guy he stays in the mix everybody knows he is around he aint taking any shorts , He got married to a nice looker ,George drove for Merlino for who the fuck knows why ( That Marty Bent finger thing had to be resolved ??), Did his time got slammed out the door big time ..beat the trial and now looks to be on his feet pretty solid ALL GOOD......, But he has bodies with other guys...And Borgesi brought rats that flipped around , And you cant undo that, When you cant undo somethings you stay close with your ear to the ground no matter how much legit money you make ,

Maybe he doing a radio broadcast for wrat

Yeah I am sure he did all that time just to come out and be a rat

[NJShore4Life]

Borgesi is a money maker , prior to his 2000 indictment he was living in a nice house in Cherry Hill, NJ and now he’s living out in King of Prussia, PA- my point being the guy always earns enough to have a house in a premiere suburb of Philly.

[JohnnyS]

The man sure knows how to make a buck.

[chin_gigante]

My guess would be family admin in 2011 was Joey Merlino (Boss), Joe Ligambi (Acting Boss/ Underboss), Mousie Massimino (Acting Underboss), Stevie Mazzone (Consigliere).
When Ligambi and Massimino get indicted, Mazzone is bumped up to acting boss and Johnny Ciancaglini to acting underboss. In 2014, Ligambi gets back on the street but intends to enter semiretirement. Mazzone doesn't want to be acting boss but there's nobody else to choose from. Ligambi becomes consigliere. Mazzone becomes official underboss/ acting boss and Ciancaglini stays on as acting underboss (presuming they stuck to the formula they used during the Ligambi era of making the acting boss the official underboss for Merlino). By 2015, Mikey Lancellotti has recovered from his bout with cancer and is able to take the reigns. Johnny Chang is suffering from his own health problems. Mazzone happily steps down to acting underboss and Mikey Lance gets bumped up to underboss/ acting boss. Dominic Grande takes over his crew. The new admin is in place in time for the Christmas party in New York. Borgesi gets bumped back up to captain. My guess is Johnny Chang either reports direct to the administration without a title or has taken over the Lucibello/ Angelina crew as capo. I remember reading that he was given control of their rackets after the 2011 indictment anyway.
In regards to the Staino crew I reckon he's either running it from jail just as Borgesi tried to hold on to his rakets while he was doing time, or the crew was split up among the remaining capos. Licata appears to continue to be in charge of Newark.
I think it's important to try not to over-complicate the structure of Philly. They're small enough that a top-heavy hierarchy would be pretty pointless. If they have a boss, acting boss, panel, street boss and captains then who's left at the bottom? Crews made up of one or two made guys?
Seems more likely that Narducci and Pungitore are allowed to act independently with their own crews while technically holding the rank of soldier, a la Harry Riccobene.

[SonnyBlackstein]

Good post

[Chucky]

My guess would be family admin in 2011 was Joey Merlino (Boss), Joe Ligambi (Acting Boss/ Underboss), Mousie Massimino (Acting Underboss), Stevie Mazzone (Consigliere).
When Ligambi and Massimino get indicted, Mazzone is bumped up to acting boss and Johnny Ciancaglini to acting underboss. In 2014, Ligambi gets back on the street but intends to enter semiretirement. Mazzone doesn't want to be acting boss but there's nobody else to choose from. Ligambi becomes consigliere. Mazzone becomes official underboss/ acting boss and Ciancaglini stays on as acting underboss (presuming they stuck to the formula they used during the Ligambi era of making the acting boss the official underboss for Merlino). By 2015, Mikey Lancellotti has recovered from his bout with cancer and is able to take the reigns. Johnny Chang is suffering from his own health problems. Mazzone happily steps down to acting underboss and Mikey Lance gets bumped up to underboss/ acting boss. Dominic Grande takes over his crew. The new admin is in place in time for the Christmas party in New York. Borgesi gets bumped back up to captain. My guess is Johnny Chang either reports direct to the administration without a title or has taken over the Lucibello/ Angelina crew as capo. I remember reading that he was given control of their rackets after the 2011 indictment anyway.
In regards to the Staino crew I reckon he's either running it from jail just as Borgesi tried to hold on to his rakets while he was doing time, or the crew was split up among the remaining capos. Licata appears to continue to be in charge of Newark.
I think it's important to try not to over-complicate the structure of Philly. They're small enough that a top-heavy hierarchy would be pretty pointless. If they have a boss, acting boss, panel, street boss and captains then who's left at the bottom? Crews made up of one or two made guys?
Seems more likely that Narducci and Pungitore are allowed to act independently with their own crews while technically holding the rank of soldier, a la Harry Riccobene.

This has a real fan-fiction quality to it

[chin_gigante]

My guess would be family admin in 2011 was Joey Merlino (Boss), Joe Ligambi (Acting Boss/ Underboss), Mousie Massimino (Acting Underboss), Stevie Mazzone (Consigliere).
When Ligambi and Massimino get indicted, Mazzone is bumped up to acting boss and Johnny Ciancaglini to acting underboss. In 2014, Ligambi gets back on the street but intends to enter semiretirement. Mazzone doesn't want to be acting boss but there's nobody else to choose from. Ligambi becomes consigliere. Mazzone becomes official underboss/ acting boss and Ciancaglini stays on as acting underboss (presuming they stuck to the formula they used during the Ligambi era of making the acting boss the official underboss for Merlino). By 2015, Mikey Lancellotti has recovered from his bout with cancer and is able to take the reigns. Johnny Chang is suffering from his own health problems. Mazzone happily steps down to acting underboss and Mikey Lance gets bumped up to underboss/ acting boss. Dominic Grande takes over his crew. The new admin is in place in time for the Christmas party in New York. Borgesi gets bumped back up to captain. My guess is Johnny Chang either reports direct to the administration without a title or has taken over the Lucibello/ Angelina crew as capo. I remember reading that he was given control of their rackets after the 2011 indictment anyway.
In regards to the Staino crew I reckon he's either running it from jail just as Borgesi tried to hold on to his rakets while he was doing time, or the crew was split up among the remaining capos. Licata appears to continue to be in charge of Newark.
I think it's important to try not to over-complicate the structure of Philly. They're small enough that a top-heavy hierarchy would be pretty pointless. If they have a boss, acting boss, panel, street boss and captains then who's left at the bottom? Crews made up of one or two made guys?
Seems more likely that Narducci and Pungitore are allowed to act independently with their own crews while technically holding the rank of soldier, a la Harry Riccobene.

This has a real fan-fiction quality to it

Just throwing it out there. Looking for corrections and facts. That's why I came to this forum

[SonnyBlackstein]

My guess would be family admin in 2011 was Joey Merlino (Boss), Joe Ligambi (Acting Boss/ Underboss), Mousie Massimino (Acting Underboss), Stevie Mazzone (Consigliere).
When Ligambi and Massimino get indicted, Mazzone is bumped up to acting boss and Johnny Ciancaglini to acting underboss. In 2014, Ligambi gets back on the street but intends to enter semiretirement. Mazzone doesn't want to be acting boss but there's nobody else to choose from. Ligambi becomes consigliere. Mazzone becomes official underboss/ acting boss and Ciancaglini stays on as acting underboss (presuming they stuck to the formula they used during the Ligambi era of making the acting boss the official underboss for Merlino). By 2015, Mikey Lancellotti has recovered from his bout with cancer and is able to take the reigns. Johnny Chang is suffering from his own health problems. Mazzone happily steps down to acting underboss and Mikey Lance gets bumped up to underboss/ acting boss. Dominic Grande takes over his crew. The new admin is in place in time for the Christmas party in New York. Borgesi gets bumped back up to captain. My guess is Johnny Chang either reports direct to the administration without a title or has taken over the Lucibello/ Angelina crew as capo. I remember reading that he was given control of their rackets after the 2011 indictment anyway.
In regards to the Staino crew I reckon he's either running it from jail just as Borgesi tried to hold on to his rakets while he was doing time, or the crew was split up among the remaining capos. Licata appears to continue to be in charge of Newark.
I think it's important to try not to over-complicate the structure of Philly. They're small enough that a top-heavy hierarchy would be pretty pointless. If they have a boss, acting boss, panel, street boss and captains then who's left at the bottom? Crews made up of one or two made guys?
Seems more likely that Narducci and Pungitore are allowed to act independently with their own crews while technically holding the rank of soldier, a la Harry Riccobene.

This has a real fan-fiction quality to it

Unfair.
Made in good faith based on commonly accepted probabilities and info. It’s the scenario I’d believe is somewhat likely.
Where’s the fandom?

[Fughedaboutit]

My guess would be family admin in 2011 was Joey Merlino (Boss), Joe Ligambi (Acting Boss/ Underboss), Mousie Massimino (Acting Underboss), Stevie Mazzone (Consigliere).
When Ligambi and Massimino get indicted, Mazzone is bumped up to acting boss and Johnny Ciancaglini to acting underboss. In 2014, Ligambi gets back on the street but intends to enter semiretirement. Mazzone doesn't want to be acting boss but there's nobody else to choose from. Ligambi becomes consigliere. Mazzone becomes official underboss/ acting boss and Ciancaglini stays on as acting underboss (presuming they stuck to the formula they used during the Ligambi era of making the acting boss the official underboss for Merlino). By 2015, Mikey Lancellotti has recovered from his bout with cancer and is able to take the reigns. Johnny Chang is suffering from his own health problems. Mazzone happily steps down to acting underboss and Mikey Lance gets bumped up to underboss/ acting boss. Dominic Grande takes over his crew. The new admin is in place in time for the Christmas party in New York. Borgesi gets bumped back up to captain. My guess is Johnny Chang either reports direct to the administration without a title or has taken over the Lucibello/ Angelina crew as capo. I remember reading that he was given control of their rackets after the 2011 indictment anyway.
In regards to the Staino crew I reckon he's either running it from jail just as Borgesi tried to hold on to his rakets while he was doing time, or the crew was split up among the remaining capos. Licata appears to continue to be in charge of Newark.
I think it's important to try not to over-complicate the structure of Philly. They're small enough that a top-heavy hierarchy would be pretty pointless. If they have a boss, acting boss, panel, street boss and captains then who's left at the bottom? Crews made up of one or two made guys?
Seems more likely that Narducci and Pungitore are allowed to act independently with their own crews while technically holding the rank of soldier, a la Harry Riccobene.

This has a real fan-fiction quality to it

Unfair.
Made in good faith based on commonly accepted probabilities and info. It’s the scenario I’d believe is somewhat likely.
Where’s the fandom?

Yeah I thought it was a pretty decent write up, and it inst like he was presenting it as fact. Not sure what Chucky's problem was? Uncalled for imo

Feel free to add input to what he said instead of calling him out on "fandom"