Great Early 2000s Article About Nicky Jr.

[NJShore4Life]

Came across this , thought the board would enjoy:

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/20 ... nd-bookie/

[UTC]

Good one.

[Wiseguy]

I remember that case. Funny how the defense was complaining about the then-new keystroke technology being used to bust Nicky Jr. Whether it's that, a wiretap, or whatever, who cares?

[NJShore4Life]

I think its beyond absurd that they used keystroke chip sensing software (which was cutting edge technology at the time) in a bookmaking case but you have to remember this was pre-9/11 the Mafia was the FBI's priority #1 here in Jersey then. They would NEVER get away with this in 2018.

[Rocco]

I think its beyond absurd that they used keystroke chip sensing software (which was cutting edge technology at the time) in a bookmaking case but you have to remember this was pre-9/11 the Mafia was the FBI's priority #1 here in Jersey then. They would NEVER get away with this in 2018.

Right! The investigation probably cost the feds 100x more then Scarfo ever even Grossed on his book ! lol I read about a bust out in North Jersey a few years back. Some hicks were growing weed. They used helicopters, Multiple agencys, cops from 5 different towns, dogs and a county swat team to arrest 3 rednecks growing weed. LE seized 55 plants. Must have cost tax payers about $2 million dollars to arrest these 3 knuckleheads who probably made $35k selling a yr. Fuckin stupid.

[SonnyBlackstein]

I remember that case. Funny how the defense was complaining about the then-new keystroke technology being used to bust Nicky Jr. Whether it's that, a wiretap, or whatever, who cares?

Because the government is FOR the people.

And shouldn’t have the right to carte blanche use anything against its people without reason.

Would you be happy for the government to hover a drone outside your bedroom filming your every move 24/7, 365 a year?

What if they water-boarded your kids?

And what if they were wrong?

So the means the G uses is absolutely ALWAYS in question.
Because as you can see, sometimes the means don’t justify the ends.

I want to be safe too, but am I willing to give up my bedroom for permanent government viewing or torture of loved ones? Fuck that. I’ll take a restricted government with a higher chance of a crime committed than a dictatorship with its people under surveillance any day.

[chubby]

Any invasion of my privacy by the Feds or NSA or whatever I'm fully against and I hate the arguement well if you're. Not doing anything illegal you shouldnt have anything against it. That's not the point.

[Confederate]

Sometimes the Government is NOT for the people. That's why we have the Second Amendment. It gives us the right to protect ourselves from criminals AND from a Tyrant Government. The first thing a Tyrant Government does is to try and disarm the people.

[Wiseguy]

I remember that case. Funny how the defense was complaining about the then-new keystroke technology being used to bust Nicky Jr. Whether it's that, a wiretap, or whatever, who cares?

Because the government is FOR the people.

And shouldn’t have the right to carte blanche use anything against its people without reason.

Would you be happy for the government to hover a drone outside your bedroom filming your every move 24/7, 365 a year?

What if they water-boarded your kids?

And what if they were wrong?

So the means the G uses is absolutely ALWAYS in question.
Because as you can see, sometimes the means don’t justify the ends.

I want to be safe too, but am I willing to give up my bedroom for permanent government viewing or torture of loved ones? Fuck that. I’ll take a restricted government with a higher chance of a crime committed than a dictatorship with its people under surveillance any day.

The keystroke technology was just another way they could bust a criminal. Not that big a deal. But you're now going off on some tangent about government drones outside my window? I guess if they want to see us watching Netflix or chasing our kid around but something tells me they have better things to do. Anyway, I'm willing to bet people that would complain about this have more of a problem with the government busting a bookie than how they went about it.

[SonnyBlackstein]

Wasn’t my point. You stated it doesn’t matter how the G catches criminals. I was attempting to illustrate that yes, it very much does matter.

That’s all.

[chubby]

Wasn’t my point. You stated it doesn’t matter how the G catches criminals. I was attempting to illustrate that yes, it very much does matter.

That’s all.

Agreed.