gohnjotti wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:46 am
Fat Sammy Valenti was one of the other guys sponsored by Jerry Asaro at the same time as John Ragano (I think Vinny Asaro revealed that in 2012 or so) and by 2014, Fat Sammy was a soldier so it's probably safe to say he was made in the same ceremony as Ragano.
Good find. Thanks.
Pogo
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gohnjotti wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:46 am
Fat Sammy Valenti was one of the other guys sponsored by Jerry Asaro at the same time as John Ragano (I think Vinny Asaro revealed that in 2012 or so) and by 2014, Fat Sammy was a soldier so it's probably safe to say he was made in the same ceremony as Ragano.
Good find. Thanks.
Pogo
So we know of four guys made in the 2013-2015 period (Frank Salerno, John Ragano, Anthony Valenti and Enzo Stagno) and possibly Nicholas Festa. That's maybe 5-10 guys we don't know about that were made during that time right?
gohnjotti wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2017 9:58 pm
So we know of four guys made in the 2013-2015 period (Frank Salerno, John Ragano, Anthony Valenti and Enzo Stagno) and possibly Nicholas Festa. That's maybe 5-10 guys we don't know about that were made during that time right?
Vito Pipitone is another one. Maybe Steven DeSimone as well.
Pogo
It's a new morning in America... fresh, vital. The old cynicism is gone. We have faith in our leaders. We're optimistic as to what becomes of it all. It really boils down to our ability to accept. We don't need pessimism. There are no limits.
gohnjotti wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2017 9:58 pm
So we know of four guys made in the 2013-2015 period (Frank Salerno, John Ragano, Anthony Valenti and Enzo Stagno) and possibly Nicholas Festa. That's maybe 5-10 guys we don't know about that were made during that time right?
Vito Pipitone is another one. Maybe Steven DeSimone as well.
Thanks for the info. I've updated the original lists with all of the corrections and additions. Thanks to everyone who contributed to the info especially JD.
Pogo
It's a new morning in America... fresh, vital. The old cynicism is gone. We have faith in our leaders. We're optimistic as to what becomes of it all. It really boils down to our ability to accept. We don't need pessimism. There are no limits.
I know there has been much debate over this but I believe Franzese's claim and I believe the Colombo's held a making ceremony in 1975. Joe Cantalupo says Shorty Spero was made in 75 also in the Crime Doc. That and a guy remembers his making date like he remembers his birthday. As far as Allie Boy I believe that he was made in a family outside of NY and then transferred to the Colombo Family to skirt the "Books are Closed" rule at the time. It was allowed because of the circumstances of his being Carmine's brother and him taking the pinch for Carmine and being in prison all those years
gohnjotti wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:03 pm
Hey Pogo, I notice you have two separate ceremonies listed for Vito Grimaldi. Which is the correct one?
The 1991 one.
Camo wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:38 pm
There's a bunch of guys listed more than once. Vincent Asaro is in both: January/February 1976 and August 1977 for example.
Asaro was in August 1977. The original post is not up to date. I have since made many additions and corrections to my list.
Pogo
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