Chicago Outfit Lineage Chart 1928-2017

[Snakes]

I don't know. It was really ambiguous as to who was #2 at that time. Zizzo was probably jockeying for that spot but I am not really sure.

[Snakes]

Scott also mentioned that "street boss" as being a specific title, rather than another term for capo. He told me that he wasn't sure how he fit in wit Cataudella as UB, but if I had to guess he acts as a sort of liaison to the streets between Cataudella and DeLaurentis. That would make sense since he still appears to also be head of his own crew. Cataudella seems to solely be UB. All of the above is merely guesswork on my part.

[Villain]

Scott also mentioned that "street boss" as being a specific title, rather than another term for capo. He told me that he wasn't sure how he fit in wit Cataudella as UB, but if I had to guess he acts as a sort of liaison to the streets between Cataudella and DeLaurentis. That would make sense since he still appears to also be head of his own crew. Cataudella seems to solely be UB. All of the above is merely guesswork on my part.

Thanks for the additional info and I think that we already talked about top members still controlling their own crews or overseers, which I think it started since the old days. So do you think that Andriacchi and DeLaurentis during one period also acted in the same way as Ricca and Accardo who both previously acted during one time and also do you think that after DiFronzo's retirement, they somehow lessened or diminished the power of the boss who in turn became more of a liasion between the top boss and the rest of the organization?

[Frank]

Yes that's all we have to go by right now. It's also unclear about which boss position Delaurentis has. I assumed that he was replacing DiFronzo with Addriacchi possibly top boss till SolleyD was groomed with No Nose In bad health. Or was he being groomed as cheif executive and Addriacchi replaced DiFronzo?? If so who was cheif executive those 4 or 5 years since Sarno went down. I assumed Solly originally replaced Sarno then later on moved up to be groomed as top boss.

[Frank]

Scott also mentioned that "street boss" as being a specific title, rather than another term for capo. He told me that he wasn't sure how he fit in wit Cataudella as UB, but if I had to guess he acts as a sort of liaison to the streets between Cataudella and DeLaurentis. That would make sense since he still appears to also be head of his own crew. Cataudella seems to solely be UB. All of the above is merely guesswork on my part.

Thanks for the additional info and I think that we already talked about top members still controlling their own crews or overseers, which I think it started since the old days. So do you think that Andriacchi and DeLaurentis during one period also acted in the same way as Ricca and Accardo who both previously acted during one time and also do you think that after DiFronzo's retirement, they somehow lessened or diminished the power of the boss who in turn became more of a liasion between the top boss and the rest of the organization?

Yes that's a good question. Is Vena position replacing the old cheif executive type position. Or is Solly in that position with Addriacchi the top boss??

[Frank]

Scott also mentioned that "street boss" as being a specific title, rather than another term for capo. He told me that he wasn't sure how he fit in wit Cataudella as UB, but if I had to guess he acts as a sort of liaison to the streets between Cataudella and DeLaurentis. That would make sense since he still appears to also be head of his own crew. Cataudella seems to solely be UB. All of the above is merely guesswork on my part.

Thanks for the additional info and I think that we already talked about top members still controlling their own crews or overseers, which I think it started since the old days. So do you think that Andriacchi and DeLaurentis during one period also acted in the same way as Ricca and Accardo who both previously acted during one time and also do you think that after DiFronzo's retirement, they somehow lessened or diminished the power of the boss who in turn became more of a liasion between the top boss and the rest of the organization?

Yes that's a good question. Is Vena position replacing the old cheif executive type position. Or is Solly in that position with Addriacchi the top boss??

[Snakes]

If I had to guess, DiFronzo was the very top guy until whenever his alleged health problems (Dementia? I don't think it's ever been confirmed) started to emerge. This was probaby a few years ago by now. Andriacchi probably became the top guy but the only source we have for that is Fosco's site. It's probably not too far off the mark, though.

According to Scott, DeLaurentis is boss, then Cataudella, then Albert Vena, followed by the rest of the crew bosses.

Marco D'Amico is a mystery. Scott has him as consigliere but that's never been something that was traditionally used by the Outfit. Maybe they restructured their hierarchy in the past few years to follow a more traditional LCN style, although I don't know why they'd do so now after so many years with their own unique structure. I'd just say that D'Amico is on a level below Andriacchi but above DeLaurentis. I wouldn't even begin to know what to call that.

[Frank]

That's another tricky position. I would say D'Amico was DiFronzo's advisor. But it wasn't the same advisor capacity as Ricca and Accardo who were actually above the cheif executive. Now whether his title is Consigliere or just advisor who knows. We know Marco was close with DiFronzo. I believe Marco was probably made by DiFronzo. I believe that was Joey Lombardo's position before he went down. Johnny was the top boss and used the Clown for advice. So I don't know if that put Marco and Clown above the underboss and chief executive.

[Frank]

Lol I guess we both just posted puts possibly that Addriacchi and D'AMICO are the top bosses and possibly at one time It was DiFronzo and Lombardo. I guess it depends on whether they advised the underboss and chief executive too and we're under them or not. Shit this is worse than the Phillip Lombardo Frank Tieri Tony Salerno thing with the Genovese.

[Pete]

I've said this before but I disagree with the whole top bosses thing. I think this comes from people trying to make the outfit fit into what traditional lcn is and it's not. When accardo stepped down he was no longer boss. Aiuppa didn't have to clear things with him or get his approval. Same thing when difronzo stepped down. The various bosses after him did what they wanted. The reason difronzo stepped down is he didn't wanna be involved and exposed to prosecutions. He didn't want marcello or sarno coming to him and getting his approval on things he didn't want anything to do with that. Someone who is retired is retired. Can they be consulted in things? Of course but to say they are still the top boss or have the final say there's been nothing I have seen that supports that.

[cavita]

I've said this before but I disagree with the whole top bosses thing. I think this comes from people trying to make the outfit fit into what traditional lcn is and it's not. When accardo stepped down he was no longer boss. Aiuppa didn't have to clear things with him or get his approval. Same thing when difronzo stepped down. The various bosses after him did what they wanted. The reason difronzo stepped down is he didn't wanna be involved and exposed to prosecutions. He didn't want marcello or sarno coming to him and getting his approval on things he didn't want anything to do with that. Someone who is retired is retired. Can they be consulted in things? Of course but to say they are still the top boss or have the final say there's been nothing I have seen that supports that.

I agree with this line of thinking, especially with Chicago. The "retired" boss can certainly be consulted on things he has experience with and on individuals he has close knowledge of. The question is, are these retired guys considered "inactive" or are they active because of their ability to still be consulted?

[Snakes]

I agree, but I still think they have the power of veto. Also, if they want something done I assume that they also have authority to hand down killings, etc. But you're right, they have generally let the bosses run the Outfit with no interference.

[Confederate]

I agree, but I still think they have the power of veto. Also, if they want something done I assume that they also have authority to hand down killings, etc. But you're right, they have generally let the bosses run the Outfit with no interference.

[Pete]

I agree, but I still think they have the power of veto. Also, if they want something done I assume that they also have authority to hand down killings, etc. But you're right, they have generally let the bosses run the Outfit with no interference.

I suppose they could maybe veto but that's assuming they were consulted in the first place. The long running joke was difronzo wouldn't even have coffee with Cicero because he was worried about the heat. Killings we have seen as accardo had all those guys killed that burglarized his house after he stepped down but I'm sure everyone was on board with that anyways. I doubt difronzo or andriacchi has wanted anyone hit in a long time but could they? Yeah probably but my point is that doesn't mean they are a boss anymore. Just a retired, respected, member and former boss. According to my information difronzo hasn't been the boss in 20 years which some people obviously disagree with. My main problem with this discussion was the idea that andriacchi is still on top or has the final say. He's been inactive for quite some time and is up there in age. He doesn't get around much anymore and I have trouble seeing people going to his house to get approval for stuff. To me if your saying vena is street boss that means he's the boss as that's what they said marcello, sarno, etc were.

[Confederate]

I agree, but I still think they have the power of veto. Also, if they want something done I assume that they also have authority to hand down killings, etc. But you're right, they have generally let the bosses run the Outfit with no interference.

I think You and Pete have the right idea. Guys like Accardo, Ricca, DiFronzo etc. when they retire, they really only have the power to veto in the same way Ricca and Accardo vetoed Gianacan occasionally. They don't run the Outfit. They are like retired former Bosses who are on a Board of Directors (best example I can think of) who the #1 & #2 can go to for advice OR if the retired Board members hear something they really don't like, can veto it. This happened to Giancana according to the wire that Roemer had in the Tailor shop back in 1959. Just my opinion.