Present Day Chicago Outfit

[smoker]

But thats what i mean "Marcello's guys". Little Jimmy is locked up. So who represents his guys? What top guys are even left over from that Carlisi crew?

[TommyNoto]

If the IL state runs video gambling and there are those crazy background checks that lets legal firms run wild with investigations and fees then it's going to be tough to do a lot in that trade . here and there sure but that background check business is a legal racket upon itself , no bid type shit

[Confederate]

But thats what i mean "Marcello's guys". Little Jimmy is locked up. So who represents his guys? What top guys are even left over from that Carlisi crew?

Zizzo was the leader of the Carlisi Crew when Marcello was locked up.

[smoker]

Right but Zizzo "passed" in '06. I guess I wasn't necessarily expecting a response per say, but I was more just highlighting my issues with Burnstein's reporting on that matter. These "beefs" that DeLaurentis straightened out would have likely occurred around 2015. I'm still sort of unclear on what he was talking about, but from my understanding: There are still two separate factions down there, the CIcero/Berwyn guys & then the Melrose Park guys. So basically Ferriola's guys & Carlisi's guys. Mike Sarno was a member of the Ferriola Street Crew, which was also Solly D's crew. Little Jimmy & Tony Zizzo were Carlisi's underlings. So was Burnstein implying that the men that Mike Sarno made (which in my opinion included Panzarella & Montana, as I've stated previously) skiddish about doing business with the Melrose Park guys? The whole thing was just sort of vague, is what I'm trying to say.

[Confederate]

Yes, I see what you are saying. Scott didn't specify WHO the younger guys in the Cicero Crew were beefing with.
Some guys who were left over from the Melrose Park Crew were Frank & Joseph Bonavolanti, Richard Gervasio, Gil Valerio, and James DiDomenico.

[Snakes]

Frank's been dead 20 years; he didn't even finish his sentence out.

[Confederate]

Frank's been dead 20 years; he didn't even finish his sentence out.

Are the rest of those guys still alive? Were they swallowed up into the Cicero Crew?

[cavita]

Frank's been dead 20 years; he didn't even finish his sentence out.

Are the rest of those guys still alive? Were they swallowed up into the Cicero Crew?

The rest of the guys are still alive but I have Bonavolanti and DiDomenico belonging to the Southside/Chinatown crew. I'm not sure about the others.

[Snakes]

The tensions that Scott said Solly D squashed were between Sarno's guys and other Outfit members - he didn't specify what crew.

The feud between Sarno's and Marcello's guys ended with wherever Zizzo ended up getting dumped or buried. Hatch was already dead and that crew had no one else with enough clout to challenge Sarno. Jimmy is in prison for life and Mickey's power only extended as far as his brother's.

Everything belonging to MP probably got swallowed up by Cicero or chopped up among the other crews.

[cavita]

The tensions that Scott said Solly D squashed were between Sarno's guys and other Outfit members - he didn't specify what crew.

The feud between Sarno's and Marcello's guys ended with wherever Zizzo ended up getting dumped or buried. Hatch was already dead and that crew had no one else with enough clout to challenge Sarno. Jimmy is in prison for life and Mickey's power only extended as far as his brother's.

Everything belonging to MP probably got swallowed up by Cicero or chopped up among the other crews.

These things gotta happen every five years or so, ten years. Helps to get rid of the bad blood. Been ten years since the last one. You know, you gotta stop them at the beginning. Like they should have stopped Hitler at Munich, they should never let him get away with that, they was just asking for trouble.

[Snakes]

It was pretty goddamn bad. Probably all the other crews lined up against them. That's all right.

[Pete]

Yes, I see what you are saying. Scott didn't specify WHO the younger guys in the Cicero Crew were beefing with.
Some guys who were left over from the Melrose Park Crew were Frank & Joseph Bonavolanti, Richard Gervasio, Gil Valerio, and James DiDomenico.

When someone is telling other people they are wrong and then drop a guys name who has been dead 20 years

[Confederate]

Yes, I see what you are saying. Scott didn't specify WHO the younger guys in the Cicero Crew were beefing with.
Some guys who were left over from the Melrose Park Crew were Frank & Joseph Bonavolanti, Richard Gervasio, Gil Valerio, and James DiDomenico.

When someone is telling other people they are wrong and then drop a guys name who has been dead 20 years

I didn't say anybody was dead wrong. I just questioned something with no facts to back it up.
I never said they were all alive. I only NAMED the guys who were convicted in 1996 from a case I read.

You should talk lol with your 200 made guys statement and how fughedaboutit made a fool out of you in the graveyard.
Yeh, I read it.

[Frank]

I think the trouble that Solly Delaurentis squashed happened in 2012 or 13.

[Pete]

Yes, I see what you are saying. Scott didn't specify WHO the younger guys in the Cicero Crew were beefing with.
Some guys who were left over from the Melrose Park Crew were Frank & Joseph Bonavolanti, Richard Gervasio, Gil Valerio, and James DiDomenico.

When someone is telling other people they are wrong and then drop a guys name who has been dead 20 years

I didn't say anybody was dead wrong. I just questioned something with no facts to back it up.
I never said they were all alive. I only NAMED the guys who were convicted in 1996 from a case I read.

You should talk lol with your 200 made guys statement and how fughedaboutit made a fool out of you in the graveyard.
Yeh, I read it.

And it gets even better thanks for the comic relief