Mangano's Downfall-Chicago

[Frank]

Also didn't an informant name Nitto as boss in leadership history? But maybe he was talking about him being boss when Capone and Franky Rio we're locked up in I want to say Philadelphia.

[Villain]

Dated material or not it all sounds very possible. Very, very good article. It's very possible with all your evidence that Ricca was the boss after Al. And that Nitto was a Capo only, being misidentified as boss. The Chicago Outfit, Genovese's post Vito's inprisonmant and the Gambino's of the post John Gotti are hard to figure out. The Outfit since Al. I think I have the Outfit leadership since Giancana figured out, but not 100 percent certain lol.

Thank you and I agree that the Outfit was and still is one of the most complicated and mysterious factions in US Cosa Nostra, as you said, since the days of Al. For me personally the main reason for this was the huge attention which was brought by Al. I mean there were some countries during that period without radio or even newspapers only regarding their local activities but still, somehow they managed to hear regarding the big time boss. My grandmother used to talk about Capone, my mother did the same thing...nobody ever mentioned Luciano or Lansy when I was a kid but when somebody mention Chicago, instantly in everybodys mind there was the picture of the big fella.

So Ricca and boys had a tough job in maintaining the organization under the radar but still I believe that they succeeded doing it for a very long time. Obviously many of them went to jail a couple of times but by the end of the day, most of the time they were free on the streets and died in that style. On top of that, at one point they controlled the most powerful criminal organization in the country and possibly the world.

As for Nittos high stature during the Capone days, it is quite possible since many history books or newspaper articles claim the same thing and if you look at some of his records, he was always arrested with the big boys and one time I think that he was arrested with Capones books but im not sure. But when Capone went away, his closest underlings were no more at the top. Accrding to his record, during the next decade he was arrested with members of lower rank such as Louis Fratto. Together they were arrested in a car and Nitto was driving. You see, eventhough Al was Riccas best man at his wedding (1926 or 27), still Ricca came from the West Side and previously worked for Esposito who in turn was connected to the Mafia if not a member besides his non-Sicilian roots. Also Campagna was imported from NY in 1928 i think on the citys West Side, so this means that "recent" members and allies took over his organization, instead of his closest people.

If you ask me, Nitto even did not have the time for the top position, since first he was jailed for more than a year and after he was shot and almost killed which gave him an additional year to get back on track. So thats more than two years regarding Nittos absence from the stage and Im talking about the period when Prohibition ended

[BillyBrizzi]

Great read Villain..

I just looked at a couple of pics of Lawrence Mangano and Vincent Mangano of New York and became convinced that Joe Bonanno put a photo of Lawrence Mangano in his book that supposed to be Vincent. I'm talking about the NY Commission succession chart in the middle of the book, where Bonanno pictured all the bosses of the Five Families from 1931 to 1968.

Strange mistake, since Vincent Mangano was supposedly such a good friend..

[Villain]

Great read Villain..

I just looked at a couple of pics of Lawrence Mangano and Vincent Mangano of New York and became convinced that Joe Bonanno put a photo of Lawrence Mangano in his book that supposed to be Vincent. I'm talking about the NY Commission succession chart in the middle of the book, where Bonanno pictured all the bosses of the Five Families from 1931 to 1968.

Strange mistake, since Vincent Mangano was supposedly such a good friend..

Yeah I remember seeing the same photo on the Crime Inc doc i think. Who knows, maybe its just another of Bonannos lies, after all he was one of devils who walked the earth. I saw his 60 min interview more than a dozen of times and he always reminds me of my late grandfather who used to tell me fantasy stories when I was a kid. Everything was the same during the story telling, same smile, same face, same eyes, same moves...

[Angelo Santino]

Great read Villain..

I just looked at a couple of pics of Lawrence Mangano and Vincent Mangano of New York and became convinced that Joe Bonanno put a photo of Lawrence Mangano in his book that supposed to be Vincent. I'm talking about the NY Commission succession chart in the middle of the book, where Bonanno pictured all the bosses of the Five Families from 1931 to 1968.

Strange mistake, since Vincent Mangano was supposedly such a good friend..

Yeah I remember seeing the same photo on the Crime Inc doc i think. Who knows, maybe its just another of Bonannos lies, after all he was one of devils who walked the earth. I saw his 60 min interview more than a dozen of times and he always reminds me of my late grandfather who used to tell me fantasy stories when I was a kid. Everything was the same during the story telling, same smile, same face, same eyes, same moves...

That may have been a mistake on the publisher's part. I base that on the other photos used which were mugshots and don't believe every photo came from the family collection.

[Villain]

Great read Villain..

I just looked at a couple of pics of Lawrence Mangano and Vincent Mangano of New York and became convinced that Joe Bonanno put a photo of Lawrence Mangano in his book that supposed to be Vincent. I'm talking about the NY Commission succession chart in the middle of the book, where Bonanno pictured all the bosses of the Five Families from 1931 to 1968.

Strange mistake, since Vincent Mangano was supposedly such a good friend..

Yeah I remember seeing the same photo on the Crime Inc doc i think. Who knows, maybe its just another of Bonannos lies, after all he was one of devils who walked the earth. I saw his 60 min interview more than a dozen of times and he always reminds me of my late grandfather who used to tell me fantasy stories when I was a kid. Everything was the same during the story telling, same smile, same face, same eyes, same moves...

That may have been a mistake on the publisher's part. I base that on the other photos used which were mugshots and don't believe every photo came from the family collection.

Yeah but they should have. When my dad used to write books regarding neuropsychiatry, he as the author checked his books more than a dozen of times before publishing and in fact he always found more than few mistakes regarding photos which are way more complicated rather then muggshots or press photos

[BillyBrizzi]

Great read Villain..

I just looked at a couple of pics of Lawrence Mangano and Vincent Mangano of New York and became convinced that Joe Bonanno put a photo of Lawrence Mangano in his book that supposed to be Vincent. I'm talking about the NY Commission succession chart in the middle of the book, where Bonanno pictured all the bosses of the Five Families from 1931 to 1968.

Strange mistake, since Vincent Mangano was supposedly such a good friend..

Yeah I remember seeing the same photo on the Crime Inc doc i think. Who knows, maybe its just another of Bonannos lies, after all he was one of devils who walked the earth. I saw his 60 min interview more than a dozen of times and he always reminds me of my late grandfather who used to tell me fantasy stories when I was a kid. Everything was the same during the story telling, same smile, same face, same eyes, same moves...

That may have been a mistake on the publisher's part. I base that on the other photos used which were mugshots and don't believe every photo came from the family collection.

It was this photo, but they only showed his head in it. Was supposed to be Vincent Mangano, but it's Lawrence right?

[Angelo Santino]

Yes, that's Lawrence 'Dago' Mangano, of Chicago. Not to be confused with Vincenzo Mangano of NYC:


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