Cleveland circa '85

[FriendofFamily]

I got this from JCB a while ago and he told me it was OK to copy and paste it here.


He was given his button prior to his trial for the Danny green murder. His wife received gambling payments every single month from Joseph Perfette through Orlie Carabbia while he was locked up. According to Special Agent Bob Hawk of the Cleveland FBI office, Lonardo felt he deserved to be made and also the top guys in Cleveland wanted to ensure that he kept his mouth shut which is why they paid his wife monthly and footed the bill for his legal defense.

Prior to that, he was a high-ranking associate and a very close ally to Tony the Dope who trusted Ronnie enough to let him run his section of Mahoning County without interference.

Ronnie would've been made sooner but Angelo Lonardo couldn't get past the fact that his brother Charlie was a loudmouth and could not be controlled, even by Ronnie.

Thanks for posting , they stopped paying out the skim money and used it for legal expensives

Is orlie still alive ?

Orlie is still alive and He lives in Struthers and is 90

[Stroccos]

I got this from JCB a while ago and he told me it was OK to copy and paste it here.


He was given his button prior to his trial for the Danny green murder. His wife received gambling payments every single month from Joseph Perfette through Orlie Carabbia while he was locked up. According to Special Agent Bob Hawk of the Cleveland FBI office, Lonardo felt he deserved to be made and also the top guys in Cleveland wanted to ensure that he kept his mouth shut which is why they paid his wife monthly and footed the bill for his legal defense.

Prior to that, he was a high-ranking associate and a very close ally to Tony the Dope who trusted Ronnie enough to let him run his section of Mahoning County without interference.

Ronnie would've been made sooner but Angelo Lonardo couldn't get past the fact that his brother Charlie was a loudmouth and could not be controlled, even by Ronnie.

Thanks for posting , they stopped paying out the skim money and used it for legal expensives

Is orlie still alive ?

Orlie is still alive and He lives in Struthers and is 90

thanks , them carabbia got them good genes , i think charlie is still alive to lol no body no murder right ?

[Stroccos]

@ Chris Christie
Samuel trovato worked at the court house and tried to tamper with or influence the jury during the first Danny Greene trial

[Stroccos]

1) Not sure about Randazzo, Scott Deitche might know something.
2) Unless Mallamo transferred to Cleveland later on, JCB will definitely know.

On the chart on page 1, as per the crews, was everyone under the captains associates or were any made?

Stefano Randazzo died in 1981, so listing him as inactive in 1985 is a pretty spot on!

I don't recall offhand when he moved to Florida, but he was there full time from at least 1961 through his death in 1981. He lived for a while in Miami, just on the mainland from North Bay Village. In the early 60s he worked with Vincent Palmisano at Ciro's, a well-known mob hangout in Miami Beach. In 1962, he opened Randazzo's restaurant on Normandy Shores in Miami Beach (now a Chinese restaurant). He was often seen in the company of Trafficante, driving him as well as often meeting with him and other Tampa family members in both South Florida and Tampa. He seems to drop off surveillance reports with Trafficante in the 1970s.

I don't know if Randazzo ever came over "officially" to the Tampa family, but he was certainly in the inner circle in South Florida- he is listed as a Cleveland member in Ft Lauderdale police report of 1967. One thing to keep in mind back then in Miami was that there were many instances of mobsters from different families working closely with each other. Take for example Gambino made guys Agostino Amato and his son Vincent and Frank. They were so close to Trafficante, they had the mortgage on Santo's Tampa home, in their name.

I have more info on Randazzo in my hard copy files. With the hurricane coming, I dont have time to post more, but will after it passes.

I believe one of randazzos daughter married one of the milanos as well . Off the top of my head i believe it was Carmen Milano la underboss

[Angelo Santino]

the "card shop" crew
William "billy d" dileno
Martin "mutt " defabio
Gary "midget" compala
George"gigi" argie
sam " bones" perconti
al "big Al " miccotroto
JOhn trunzo
Joe "joe spags" spaganlo

The" Hotel sterling" crew
Sam lucarelli
victor nelli
mike panzarella
greg mascio
william denova
biago oddo
james decore
joe nelli
robert schuman

Sanzo crew offshoot crew gambling operated in geneva , ashtabula and stubenville as main areas based out of Collinwood
Peter sanzo

canton
bones battista

collinwood guys
tony delguyd
glen paulie
john iorillo
jonn olivero
ron lucarelli

akron
tony arnone

Tony liberatores crew (in prison )
Dominic Pietro Ran libs loansharking operation while he was in prison
Chester liberatore tonys brother

Miami
Dominic lonardo point man in the drug operation

Help me understand the perimeters here. So the Card Shop, Hotel Sterling, Sanzo and Collinwood crews were all composed of unmade associates with no command structure above them as the local LCN is incarcerated, inactive or flipped?

And all these guys are SEPARATE from Calandra, Sinito and Gallo crews?

[Stroccos]

the "card shop" crew
William "billy d" dileno
Martin "mutt " defabio
Gary "midget" compala
George"gigi" argie
sam " bones" perconti
al "big Al " miccotroto
JOhn trunzo
Joe "joe spags" spaganlo

The" Hotel sterling" crew
Sam lucarelli
victor nelli
mike panzarella
greg mascio
william denova
biago oddo
james decore
joe nelli
robert schuman

Sanzo crew offshoot crew gambling operated in geneva , ashtabula and stubenville as main areas based out of Collinwood
Peter sanzo

canton
bones battista

collinwood guys
tony delguyd
glen paulie
john iorillo
jonn olivero
ron lucarelli

akron
tony arnone

Tony liberatores crew (in prison )
Dominic Pietro Ran libs loansharking operation while he was in prison
Chester liberatore tonys brother

Miami
Dominic lonardo point man in the drug operation

Help me understand the perimeters here. So the Card Shop, Hotel Sterling, Sanzo and Collinwood crews were all composed of unmade associates with no command structure above them as the local LCN is incarcerated, inactive or flipped?

And all these guys are SEPARATE from Calandra, Sinito and Gallo crews?

No they would answer to joe loose or Russell papalardo

[Angelo Santino]

How many made members were on the street and active in 1985?

[Stroccos]

How many made members were on the street and active in 1985?

Off the top of my head That we know for sure were made
Joe loose Iacobacci
Russel papaladdo
Peanuts tronolone
Bones Batista
Tony panzerella may have still been running his gambling operation
Dominic Lonardo (made in buffalo according to his brother )

[Pogo The Clown]

I think Papalardo may have been in prison in 1985 from that drug bust.


Pogo

[Stroccos]

I think Papalardo may have been in prison in 1985 from that drug bust.


Pogo

papalardo was indicted in novermber of 1985 , was on on bail and reported to prison in early 87 or so
the sterling gambling crew was also indicted in mid 1985 as well

[Angelo Santino]

How many made members were on the street and active in 1985?

Off the top of my head That we know for sure were made
Joe loose Iacobacci
Russel papaladdo
Peanuts tronolone
Bones Batista
Tony panzerella may have still been running his gambling operation
Dominic Lonardo (made in buffalo according to his brother )

So

1) Dominic Lonardo is/was a Buffalo Family member?
2) The majority of the crews were handled by Iacobacci and Papalardo with Battista and Panzerella hanging onto the last vestiges of their rackets?
3) Member sections: Admin, Captains, soldiers, inactive? With points on who was incarcerated (such as the captains). Putting aside the associates, how should we organize the made members?

[Angelo Santino]

You listed James Decore as part of the Hotel Sterling Crew, the FBI had him as made I believe.

[Angelo Santino]

Was Carmen Zagaria a member?

[Stroccos]

Was Carmen Zagaria a member?

No he didn't want to be

[Stroccos]

You listed James Decore as part of the Hotel Sterling Crew, the FBI had him as made I believe.

one in hte hotel sterling crew hes not made ,possibly was his father or another realtive who was also a union guy but i doubt either was made just my take