Crea indictment update

[Stroccos]

I have never seen Madonna listed higher then UB. Iv even seen it say acting UB at times.

Usually Crea has always been cre tied for acting/street as well as many want to just say the top.

Why don't you just read the indictment?

Exactly. In fact, read both Crea indictments from 2000 and 2017. In the first one, it said he had been the official underboss and acting boss at different times. But the more recent one has him as the official underboss and Madonna as acting boss. End of story.

does having Amuso still as the official boss help the wise guys and the Feds . A symbiotic relationship that each side gets some benefits from. ? or do you all think I am off here ?

[Wiseguy]

I have never seen Madonna listed higher then UB. Iv even seen it say acting UB at times.

Usually Crea has always been cre tied for acting/street as well as many want to just say the top.

Why don't you just read the indictment?

Exactly. In fact, read both Crea indictments from 2000 and 2017. In the first one, it said he had been the official underboss and acting boss at different times. But the more recent one has him as the official underboss and Madonna as acting boss. End of story.

does having Amuso still as the official boss help the wise guys and the Feds . A symbiotic relationship that each side gets some benefits from. ? or do you all think I am off here ?

I'm not sure it's a case of helping one or the other. It's often said that if the feds have the official boss in prison, that's takes some of the heat off everyone else. But I think the feds will go after whoever is running things on the street, regardless if they're the official boss or just acting boss. For instance, if Cali were to become the official boss of the Gambino family, I'm not sure that would make him a bigger target for the feds than he already is now.

[Pete]

I have never seen Madonna listed higher then UB. Iv even seen it say acting UB at times.

Usually Crea has always been cre tied for acting/street as well as many want to just say the top.

Why don't you just read the indictment?

Exactly. In fact, read both Crea indictments from 2000 and 2017. In the first one, it said he had been the official underboss and acting boss at different times. But the more recent one has him as the official underboss and Madonna as acting boss. End of story.

The recent indictment does not identify Madonna as acting boss. He is identified as the street boss

[Pete]

Am I the only one that finds it weird neither crea sr or jr is listed as in custody on the federal bop website?

[Snakes]

They may be in between being transferred from one facility to another.

[willychichi]

Maybe they flipped or maybe the Feds want us to think they flipped?

[Rocco]

Maybe they flipped or maybe the Feds want us to think they flipped?

Nothing suprises me anymore....

[Stroccos]

Maybe they flipped or maybe the Feds want us to think they flipped?

I Looked up some of the other people indicted as well tindaro corso doesnt show up either , my guess is there housed in a local facility or somehing to that affect that houses federal inmates and never went into BOP custody yet.

[BobbyPazzo]

Maybe they flipped or maybe the Feds want us to think they flipped?

I Looked up some of the other people indicted as well tindaro corso doesnt show up either , my guess is there housed in a local facility or somehing to that affect that houses federal inmates and never went into BOP custody yet.

Not positive but until they are sentenced they won't be in the locator.

[Stroccos]

Maybe they flipped or maybe the Feds want us to think they flipped?

I Looked up some of the other people indicted as well tindaro corso doesnt show up either , my guess is there housed in a local facility or somehing to that affect that houses federal inmates and never went into BOP custody yet.

Not positive but until they are sentenced they won't be in the locator.

anytime a inmate is in bop custody itshould show up ,for example , JOe ligambi shows up released 1/28/14 but he beat that case but was held with out bail.

[Snakes]

Yes, if they are held without bail or even until they make bail, they count as being incarcerated.

[BobbyPazzo]

Yes, if they are held without bail or even until they make bail, they count as being incarcerated.

Got Ya.

[Wiseguy]

I have never seen Madonna listed higher then UB. Iv even seen it say acting UB at times.

Usually Crea has always been cre tied for acting/street as well as many want to just say the top.

Why don't you just read the indictment?

Exactly. In fact, read both Crea indictments from 2000 and 2017. In the first one, it said he had been the official underboss and acting boss at different times. But the more recent one has him as the official underboss and Madonna as acting boss. End of story.

The recent indictment does not identify Madonna as acting boss. He is identified as the street boss

True but it's effectively the same thing.

[Stroccos]

I have never seen Madonna listed higher then UB. Iv even seen it say acting UB at times.

Usually Crea has always been cre tied for acting/street as well as many want to just say the top.

Why don't you just read the indictment?

Exactly. In fact, read both Crea indictments from 2000 and 2017. In the first one, it said he had been the official underboss and acting boss at different times. But the more recent one has him as the official underboss and Madonna as acting boss. End of story.

does having Amuso still as the official boss help the wise guys and the Feds . A symbiotic relationship that each side gets some benefits from. ? or do you all think I am off here ?

I'm not sure it's a case of helping one or the other. It's often said that if the feds have the official boss in prison, that's takes some of the heat off everyone else. But I think the feds will go after whoever is running things on the street, regardless if they're the official boss or just acting boss. For instance, if Cali were to become the official boss of the Gambino family, I'm not sure that would make him a bigger target for the feds than he already is now.

I agree , I just figured it would save the gov money and they can claim the boss is in jail , because dont they have a mandate to go full throttle agaisnt any offical LCN boss. But its quite possible they do anyway agiasnt the acting

[Stroccos]

I have never seen Madonna listed higher then UB. Iv even seen it say acting UB at times.

Usually Crea has always been cre tied for acting/street as well as many want to just say the top.

Why don't you just read the indictment?

Exactly. In fact, read both Crea indictments from 2000 and 2017. In the first one, it said he had been the official underboss and acting boss at different times. But the more recent one has him as the official underboss and Madonna as acting boss. End of story.

The recent indictment does not identify Madonna as acting boss. He is identified as the street boss

True but it's effectively the same thing.

Madonna was identified as the acting boss in court by A federal prosecutor during crea jr last court appearance . So much for splitting hairs