Rocco wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2017 6:20 am
Wow This judge was convicting him of a murder that he was never convicted of. Infact the only evidence that he had a hand in the that murder was from hearsay from Russo. There is really no other evidence. Russo could have said Michael did anything really. There is no other evidence. This is becoming a very common thing for a judge to throw a higher sentence on a guy because they "feel" they are guilty of a crime they were never convicted of. Look at Mikey Coppola got 13yrs for labor racketeering because a judge "felt" he were guilty of a murder he was never convicted of. They only evidence in that case is Tommy Ricciardi said Mike told him he did it at a bar 30yrs ago. lol They get you in the end even if a jury finds you not guilty.. They judge can legally turn around and say I disagree with the jury I think you are guilty. So instead of sentencing you to 3-7yrs for Labor Racketeering. I am going to give you 13yrs because I think you actually committed that murder the jury cleared you of.
"Irizarry ruled that the 37-to-46 months sentence called for by his plea agreement was inadequate because prosecutors had proved to her satisfaction that Michael, 60, was involved in the last murder of the bloody mob war that his long-imprisoned father had waged to maintain control over the Colombo crime family in the early 1990s"
Hey Rocco , nice MC mention , when he comes home in 5-6 years how do you think he is treated ? Guy was a powerful dangerous man from my understanding but there was that rumor around about the FBI thinking he could be flipped.
The west side has a few of these old timers but serious hitters back in the day and their murder cases LE rarely fingered who the triggger man was , some real small secretive teams doing major hits . Shoot Ricci was killed 10 Years ago and LE seems to put it on MC / TF , MC was on Americas most wanted LOL and I think some on LE felt it was an internal crew beef ? Their NJ crews have a Strong activity with some big crews out there - real sophisticated scams . I know Luchesse have a very big book + other but the west side runs shit and they have the extortion racket almost all to themselves amongst OC and the reputation to whack guys still and keep it pretty quiet, very impressive OC crews and I think they have big SJ betting action today .
I think he would still be active if released. Remember when his son in law was being punked by his fellow Italians in prison? Persico sent word that he was going to be made and should be respected. That shows that he is still involved in the life and is still the Colombos top dog.
TommyNoto wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2017 8:36 pm
Hey Rocco , nice MC mention , when he comes home in 5-6 years how do you think he is treated ? Guy was a powerful dangerous man from my understanding but there was that rumor around about the FBI thinking he could be flipped.
But he didn't. I doubt Carmine Persico's big earning son, fresh out of prison, is going to have trouble with respect among his peers.
Rocco wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2017 6:20 am
Wow This judge was convicting him of a murder that he was never convicted of. Infact the only evidence that he had a hand in the that murder was from hearsay from Russo. There is really no other evidence. Russo could have said Michael did anything really. There is no other evidence. This is becoming a very common thing for a judge to throw a higher sentence on a guy because they "feel" they are guilty of a crime they were never convicted of. Look at Mikey Coppola got 13yrs for labor racketeering because a judge "felt" he were guilty of a murder he was never convicted of. They only evidence in that case is Tommy Ricciardi said Mike told him he did it at a bar 30yrs ago. lol They get you in the end even if a jury finds you not guilty.. They judge can legally turn around and say I disagree with the jury I think you are guilty. So instead of sentencing you to 3-7yrs for Labor Racketeering. I am going to give you 13yrs because I think you actually committed that murder the jury cleared you of.
"Irizarry ruled that the 37-to-46 months sentence called for by his plea agreement was inadequate because prosecutors had proved to her satisfaction that Michael, 60, was involved in the last murder of the bloody mob war that his long-imprisoned father had waged to maintain control over the Colombo crime family in the early 1990s"
Hey Rocco , nice MC mention , when he comes home in 5-6 years how do you think he is treated ? Guy was a powerful dangerous man from my understanding but there was that rumor around about the FBI thinking he could be flipped.
The west side has a few of these old timers but serious hitters back in the day and their murder cases LE rarely fingered who the triggger man was , some real small secretive teams doing major hits . Shoot Ricci was killed 10 Years ago and LE seems to put it on MC / TF , MC was on Americas most wanted LOL and I think some on LE felt it was an internal crew beef ? Their NJ crews have a Strong activity with some big crews out there - real sophisticated scams . I know Luchesse have a very big book + other but the west side runs shit and they have the extortion racket almost all to themselves amongst OC and the reputation to whack guys still and keep it pretty quiet, very impressive OC crews and I think they have big SJ betting action today .
I think MC will be fine. That was LE putting it out there because he didn't cooperate. They tried to back him into a corner. Hes fine. If they thought he went bad his kids would not still be involved which they are to this day.. Also most of the his crew members are extremely loyal to him as they were to TF. They are still all over port Newark. Not like they used to be. But they still have a presence there. He thought he was looking at 3-5yrs on the labor racketeering. He was pissed when the judge hit him with the max 13.5yrs because she thought he was guilty of murder. He appealed but it was shot down. Its crazy that they can do that.
Yeah , curious if MC is a captain again, that whole crew just seems to do things the right way with their guys but then again they have their hands in a lot of pots to do that .
Yeah they kicked all the Italian union guys out the last 5-7 years . Irish guys running the union at least out front
10-12 years ago longshoreman were still taking containers , generators and letting whoever dump garbage , penny stock scams on other union suckers , ok ing trucking companies shortchanging benefits, they jammed my boy up for $5m, Tony P . Just all kinds of different scams, crazy . That whole strike was back the fuck off to the WFC. Dudes stillwork there 2 weeks in a row and I mean stay the entire 24 hours 7 days , crazy lil world and I'm sure they have the legit servicing business on lockdown - probably legal way to control things, smart . Likely one of the top crews in LCN that we know nothing about and some of those dudes hit jackpots with the JC real estate stuff . Wish I knew more
Rocco wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2017 6:20 am
Wow This judge was convicting him of a murder that he was never convicted of. Infact the only evidence that he had a hand in the that murder was from hearsay from Russo. There is really no other evidence. Russo could have said Michael did anything really. There is no other evidence. This is becoming a very common thing for a judge to throw a higher sentence on a guy because they "feel" they are guilty of a crime they were never convicted of. Look at Mikey Coppola got 13yrs for labor racketeering because a judge "felt" he were guilty of a murder he was never convicted of. They only evidence in that case is Tommy Ricciardi said Mike told him he did it at a bar 30yrs ago. lol They get you in the end even if a jury finds you not guilty.. They judge can legally turn around and say I disagree with the jury I think you are guilty. So instead of sentencing you to 3-7yrs for Labor Racketeering. I am going to give you 13yrs because I think you actually committed that murder the jury cleared you of.
"Irizarry ruled that the 37-to-46 months sentence called for by his plea agreement was inadequate because prosecutors had proved to her satisfaction that Michael, 60, was involved in the last murder of the bloody mob war that his long-imprisoned father had waged to maintain control over the Colombo crime family in the early 1990s"
Hey Rocco , nice MC mention , when he comes home in 5-6 years how do you think he is treated ? Guy was a powerful dangerous man from my understanding but there was that rumor around about the FBI thinking he could be flipped.
The west side has a few of these old timers but serious hitters back in the day and their murder cases LE rarely fingered who the triggger man was , some real small secretive teams doing major hits . Shoot Ricci was killed 10 Years ago and LE seems to put it on MC / TF , MC was on Americas most wanted LOL and I think some on LE felt it was an internal crew beef ? Their NJ crews have a Strong activity with some big crews out there - real sophisticated scams . I know Luchesse have a very big book + other but the west side runs shit and they have the extortion racket almost all to themselves amongst OC and the reputation to whack guys still and keep it pretty quiet, very impressive OC crews and I think they have big SJ betting action today .
I think MC will be fine. That was LE putting it out there because he didn't cooperate. They tried to back him into a corner. Hes fine. If they thought he went bad his kids would not still be involved which they are to this day.. Also most of the his crew members are extremely loyal to him as they were to TF. They are still all over port Newark. Not like they used to be. But they still have a presence there. He thought he was looking at 3-5yrs on the labor racketeering. He was pissed when the judge hit him with the max 13.5yrs because she thought he was guilty of murder. He appealed but it was shot down. Its crazy that they can do that.
a good friend of mine is MC's godson and he's had a job at port newark since 2004. I always remembered him saying his uncle was on the run and this and that and I found out who his uncle was because I started running for Joe P around the same time.
Most of you wouldn't be comfortable in my playground.
Its pretty hard to get into Local 1235. I'm in my 50s now. But when I was in my early 20s I tried getting into that local and couldn't and I have many family members in since the 40s. Some higher ups. Still couldn't get in. all the freakin gangsters controlling the higher ups in that union since the 40s. They get the gangsters family jobs before the President can even get his own family in ! lol You can make allot of money down there and there is no longer serious labor involved anymore.
Local 1235 is easily one of the most corrupt unions in the country. Their past Hall of Shame includes:
Anthony (Tony the Gent) Giantomasi- Would have been indicted for extortion by died in 1952
Patsy Ferrone- Convicted of extortion in 1955
Vincent Colucci- Convicted of racketeering in 1981
Albert Cernadas- No contest plea to racketeering in 2005
Vincent Aulisi- Convicted of extortion in 2014
Thomas Leonardis- Convicted of extortion in 2014
And that is just the former Presidents of the local! There is a gap in the 1960s and 1970s as John Leonardis was the President, but given his nephew's association with the Genovese, I am sure things were no different. There have been so many past indictments, it is amazing to think it still operates the same way.
You probably already know Rocco, but as you said, a few families have fronted that local for years (as we know who really controlled things). Vincent Colucci's mother was a Ferrone etc.
I have a few longshoreman friends but there all kinds of jobs down there . My good friend fixes the boilers or something like that in a port union, someone always has to be there to fix it but 99.9% of the time he is going nothing and sleeping but this guy will work there for a few days straight , full 24 hours a day, doing very little but still clocking over 90 hours a week with the bulk being OT. Like I said some dudes basically live there , 24/7 for weeks , shit maybe months for some
From my understanding WS has a near monopoly on the trucking business . If you ain't in with them you ain't getting a port trucking contract . Their benefit business is very lucrative , multiple millions , and it's very hard for LE to prevent this business as the wiseguys are tight with the trucking and port unions and thats where the complaint and audit would have to come from and it's more of an IRS type investigation then traditional Fed work . Not too mention every trucking company owner is looking to shortchange their substantial benefit dues , everyone wants in and benefits with the only loser being a benefit plan participant if the benefit fund goes belly up. Just a crazy world down there that exists separately from ours lol. Some small advise, don't ever listen to an ILA member on a hot stock tip lol , tho I think most know this but hilariously there are plenty that still do.
Very little time for big money . Generally speaking the guy(s) that make this happen don't get caught . Irish dudes are big at the union(s) today but who are they fronting for ? That's the big question
