Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Thu Jun 01, 2017 6:39 am
Pretty sure that forum fresh street talk. No surprise that it was wrong again.
Pogo
You have repeated yourself so many times you have a problem spelling it. lol
Just copy and paste to your clip board and hit ctrl + v
Save you some time.
Pogo has a point. The batting average of the "fresh street talk" is abysmal.
It's one eternal cycle. An indictment (or an article from a guy like Capeci) comes out that gives us the facts. All previous guesses, hunches, and claims of inside knowledge fall by the wayside. For about a day or two anyway. Then the predictions of who will fill the void start up. As time goes on, we get new guesses, hunches, and claims of inside knowledge about who's what. Then, once again, those are shown to be false when real information comes out. Around and around we go.
It's different at this board because at least it leads to intelligent discussion and nobody seems to take things too personally. At least it isn't filled with out and out frauds like BB.
Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Thu Jun 01, 2017 6:39 am
Pretty sure that forum fresh street talk. No surprise that it was wrong again.
Nope, Capeci definitely mentioned something along those lines
Are you sure? I just checked the GLs on this site going back to 2014 and the only mention of Lubrano being demoted was Capeci refering to him as a Soldier. The only mention of him being demoted because of Londonio was you saying that you were told about it by someone.
Pogo
It's a new morning in America... fresh, vital. The old cynicism is gone. We have faith in our leaders. We're optimistic as to what becomes of it all. It really boils down to our ability to accept. We don't need pessimism. There are no limits.
Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Thu Jun 01, 2017 6:39 am
Pretty sure that forum fresh street talk. No surprise that it was wrong again.
Pogo
You have repeated yourself so many times you have a problem spelling it. lol
Just copy and paste to your clip board and hit ctrl + v
Save you some time.
Pogo has a point. The batting average of the "fresh street talk" is abysmal.
It's one eternal cycle. An indictment (or an article from a guy like Capeci) comes out that gives us the facts. All previous guesses, hunches, and claims of inside knowledge fall by the wayside. For about a day or two anyway. Then the predictions of who will fill the void start up. As time goes on, we get new guesses, hunches, and claims of inside knowledge about who's what. Then, once again, those are shown to be false when real information comes out. Around and around we go.
What's wrong with speculation? Guesses?
I certainly have no "fresh street talk" of my own...but what are we to do?
Sit around and nobody post until the feds come out with something?
"I wanna hear some noise." "Tell Salvie to clean the boat, the whole boat top to bottom" -Nicodemo "Nicky" Scarfo Sr"
Hailbritain wrote: ↑Thu Jun 01, 2017 7:56 am
Does anyone know why Joseph caridi lost his position as consigliere ?? Maybe he was only ever acting consigliere for dinapoli ??
Don't know why Caridi was demoted but DiNapoli was IDed as a Capo during the time Caridi was Consiglieri.
BTW, thanks for posting today's column and pictures.
Pogo
No problem pogo , yeah I remember when dinapoli was indicted with madonna he was a capo , there must be a reason caridi that caridi was removed or stood down as consigliere
Fughedaboutit wrote: ↑Thu Jun 01, 2017 10:43 amWhat's wrong with speculation? Guesses?
I certainly have no "fresh street talk" of my own...but what are we to do?
Sit around and nobody post until the feds come out with something?
Nothing is wrong with it if we have nothing else to go on. However, in the case of the Lucchese hierarchy, we had the FBI in fairly recent court testimony stating that Amuso was still the boss. Yet people kept trying to put Crea on the throne themselves. We had Capeci actually retract what he said in one article about Crea taking over once he had more information solid info. Yet people still took it upon themselves to declare Crea the top guy in the family. We saw the same thing years ago when people were claiming Nick Corozzo was the real Gambino boss. That proved to be untrue. More recently, we've had people claim the real power in the family is John Gambino when all we've been told is that he's on a 3-man ruling panel under acting boss Frank Cali. Sure, people are free to have opinions but, after we've seen such speculation end up being wrong enough times, one would think people would be slower to jump to conclusions, less quick to believe guesswork by others (including when it's from so-called insiders), and more patient in waiting for official info.
We have also seen the so called "insiders" claim that John Riggi was no longer the DeCavalcante Boss, that Andy Russo was the "real Boss" of the Colombos instead of Tommy Gioeli and that Michael Mancuso is not the Bonanno Boss. All proven wrong by subsequent info. Of course constantly being proven wrong doesn't stop these jokers from coming on here again to spew their latest fresh street talk or from people swallowing it and repeating it as fact.
Pogo
It's a new morning in America... fresh, vital. The old cynicism is gone. We have faith in our leaders. We're optimistic as to what becomes of it all. It really boils down to our ability to accept. We don't need pessimism. There are no limits.
Regards Crea and the 'fresh street talk (why the fuck does it have to be 'fresh'. Weird.)' it originally came from Capeci that Amuso had been replaced.
So it wasn't exactly MyJismSayNo who had 'the word'.
SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Thu Jun 01, 2017 1:30 pm
Regards Crea and the 'fresh street talk (why the fuck does it have to be 'fresh'. Weird.)' it originally came from Capeci that Amuso had been replaced.
So it wasn't exactly MyJismSayNo who had 'the word'.
Ha ha , also madonna and dinapoli have been in prison for a while , who has been acting boss ??? Not madonna or dinapoli
Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Thu Jun 01, 2017 11:28 am
We have also seen the so called "insiders" claim that John Riggi was no longer the DeCavalcante Boss, that Andy Russo was the "real Boss" of the Colombos instead of Tommy Gioeli and that Michael Mancuso is not the Bonanno Boss. All proven wrong by subsequent info. Of course constantly being proven wrong doesn't stop these jokers from coming on here again to spew their latest fresh street talk or from people swallowing it and repeating it as fact.
Pogo
Speaking of which, we have ol' Louieb on GBB claiming Joseph DiBenedetto is now running the Lucchese family. How he would know this, I haven't a clue, but he typed it in ALL CAPS so it must be true.
SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Thu Jun 01, 2017 1:30 pm
Regards Crea and the 'fresh street talk (why the fuck does it have to be 'fresh'. Weird.)' it originally came from Capeci that Amuso had been replaced.
So it wasn't exactly MyJismSayNo who had 'the word'.
The "insiders" we're claiming Crea was the "real Boss" years before that Capeci article. Also the term "fresh street talk" came from one of the said insiders years ago and it just cought on.
Pogo
It's a new morning in America... fresh, vital. The old cynicism is gone. We have faith in our leaders. We're optimistic as to what becomes of it all. It really boils down to our ability to accept. We don't need pessimism. There are no limits.
I'm curious about the firearms charges. 17 of the guys picked up were nabbed with firearms charges, including the administration. Does this mean the top guys are actually charged with carrying? Or does this mean they allegedly ordered guys to commit crimes and specifically directed them to be strapped while doing the crimes?
Uncle Pete wrote: ↑Thu Jun 01, 2017 3:50 pm
I'm curious about the firearms charges. 17 of the guys picked up were nabbed with firearms charges, including the administration. Does this mean the top guys are actually charged with carrying? Or does this mean they allegedly ordered guys to commit crimes and specifically directed them to be strapped while doing the crimes?
If the administration were carrying weapons themselves, it makes me wonder if there are/were concerns over a war. I don't know much about the Luccheses, but my understanding is that Meldish had a strong independent group behind him even if he was "just" a Lucchese associate. Also, with the Luccheses trying to kill a Bonanno guy, that could have been reason for paranoia as well. Just speculation without knowing more.
The Luccheses have come across as a pretty aggressive force in recent years with the murders/attempted murders in this case and their beef with the Philly family. I have to wonder if they signed off on the Lagano hit, too, even if they didn't commit it themselves.
