Looking for info on the DeCavalcante family

[gohnjotti]

Information on the DeCavalcante family seems kinda scarce. Does anyone know who the current boss is since the death of Guaragna or has Miranda taken over? Also, how large is the DeCav family today? A 2004 report listed it as 40 made men but that's likely changed by now.

As a side note, is the Chicago Outfit's size only 25-30 made men? I've seen that figure being posted around on the internet, seems ridiculously low.

[Snakes]

Chicago, even at it's peak, never made a ton of guys.

[Pogo The Clown]

Nothing has come out regarding who the new Boss since the death of Riggi and Guarraci. It is not Miranda since he is in his 90s and has been inactive for years. The 40-50 members estimate for 2004 seems about right.


Pogo

[SonnyBlackstein]

Chicago, even at it's peak, never made a ton of guys.

We talkin metric or imperial here?

[Wiseguy]

Information on the DeCavalcante family seems kinda scarce. Does anyone know who the current boss is since the death of Guaragna or has Miranda taken over? Also, how large is the DeCav family today? A 2004 report listed it as 40 made men but that's likely changed by now.

As a side note, is the Chicago Outfit's size only 25-30 made men? I've seen that figure being posted around on the internet, seems ridiculously low.

There were at least three different law enforcement officials who put the Outfit at 25-30 members over the past decade or so. Two of them put the associate count at 75 and over 100. So, in terms of total size and manpower, the modern day Outfit is close to New England or Philadelphia. And according to a few articles this, at least in part, has been by design and not only a result of attrition and prosecutions.

[Pete]

Information on the DeCavalcante family seems kinda scarce. Does anyone know who the current boss is since the death of Guaragna or has Miranda taken over? Also, how large is the DeCav family today? A 2004 report listed it as 40 made men but that's likely changed by now.

As a side note, is the Chicago Outfit's size only 25-30 made men? I've seen that figure being posted around on the internet, seems ridiculously low.

There were at least three different law enforcement officials who put the Outfit at 25-30 members over the past decade or so. Two of them put the associate count at 75 and over 100. So, in terms of total size and manpower, the modern day Outfit is close to New England or Philadelphia. And according to a few articles this, at least in part, has been by design and not only a result of attrition and prosecutions.

Supposedly difronzo is the one who stopped making members. After marcello took over as boss and continuing through sarno they apparently started making guys again.

[Rocco]

I think Abramo will assume a top spot .I think Abramo bumped Consalvo to capo. Abramo is supposedly a pretty powerful guy in that family. Allot of the older members are dying off and in poor health. Charlie Ears is old, Vitabile is very old as well. I would look at Consalvo and Abramo as the future leaders in the next 5yrs. Maybe Louie Eggs fronting for Abramo till Abramo is off of restrictions. These guys were the money makers in the family. Pulling in millions in stock fraud and dozens of other scams and rackets. These older guys that were arrested in a retirement villages are in the 4th qtr.
Just my two cents..

[TommyGambino]

I think Abramo will assume a top spot .I think Abramo bumped Consalvo to capo. Abramo is supposedly a pretty powerful guy in that family. Allot of the older members are dying off and in poor health. Charlie Ears is old, Vitabile is very old as well. I would look at Consalvo and Abramo as the future leaders in the next 5yrs. Maybe Louie Eggs fronting for Abramo till Abramo is off of restrictions. These guys were the money makers in the family. Pulling in millions in stock fraud and dozens of other scams and rackets. These older guys that were arrested in a retirement villages are in the 4th qtr.
Just my two cents..

Is Merlo III a captain?

[TommyNoto]

I have no inside info but some of these guys are probably set up pretty good in that they have always had construction type rackets and with a lot of their business being done in union and south and the shore , most of these guys moves won't be on the Feds radar . Blue collar shit yeah I'm sure they are keeping tabs on but mostly legit construction away from the Newark FBI offices and Essex and Hudson county in general , the Feds today does not have anywhere near the manpower to stay on top of them.

I'm not saying they are in some kind of growth mode but they likely are getting some solid construction deals in areas that have big work .

The west side has the big Hudson and Essex county construction deals but who are they competing w in union and south nj for work ? Almost no one and who is putting govt resources into complex construction cases away from Newark ? Likely no one . They are probably pretty stable right now and they might even be making some real moves in their construction business as real estate is booming .

They don't seem to big in sports gambling , I mean I'm sure they have shit going on but not the massive $1m a week NFL action WS and Luchese have and even Philly , but i wouldn't be surprised if their real estate dealings are booming.

What I would be curious about is whether their structure with the Gambinos is resulting in the gambinos actually getting envelopes or rather strictly business relationships where DeCav get muscle, especially in sit downs w WS, and additional union connections and gambinos get some work in areas they have almost no presence in. I have almost never heard of a gambino NJ sports book in the last 5 years , very weak NJ activity .

[TommyNoto]

Not that I know anything or anyone cares lol but small correction to the borderline nonsense I said above, lol, as there seems to be a gambino book in Nj I know of, shows how out of the loop I am . Not sure it's indicitive of anything but it's a pretty crappy book in terms of lines and options, no where near a WS book that has in game MLB action now , with lines available after most outs lol .

[Rocco]

I have no inside info but some of these guys are probably set up pretty good in that they have always had construction type rackets and with a lot of their business being done in union and south and the shore , most of these guys moves won't be on the Feds radar . Blue collar shit yeah I'm sure they are keeping tabs on but mostly legit construction away from the Newark FBI offices and Essex and Hudson county in general , the Feds today does not have anywhere near the manpower to stay on top of them.

I'm not saying they are in some kind of growth mode but they likely are getting some solid construction deals in areas that have big work .

The west side has the big Hudson and Essex county construction deals but who are they competing w in union and south nj for work ? Almost no one and who is putting govt resources into complex construction cases away from Newark ? Likely no one . They are probably pretty stable right now and they might even be making some real moves in their construction business as real estate is booming .

They don't seem to big in sports gambling , I mean I'm sure they have shit going on but not the massive $1m a week NFL action WS and Luchese have and even Philly , but i wouldn't be surprised if their real estate dealings are booming.

What I would be curious about is whether their structure with the Gambinos is resulting in the gambinos actually getting envelopes or rather strictly business relationships where DeCav get muscle, especially in sit downs w WS, and additional union connections and gambinos get some work in areas they have almost no presence in. I have almost never heard of a gambino NJ sports book in the last 5 years , very weak NJ activity .

Gambino presence in NJ has been very weak the last 20yrs. Merola has some smalltime shit. But it was really small time. As far as Gambling I don't think they have had anything in a very long long time. I think when the Cabert crew went down they never really rebuilt. They had a few aging older members that were not serious earners. Like Mita and a few others. I think the Gambino's focused on expanding in Long Island rather then NJ to be honest. Having the Decavs under them gave them some special leadway into Construction in NJ because the Decav despite loosing that local still are very much involved in Construction in NJ. Many Companies are tied to the Decavs.

[NJShore4Life]

The Gambinos had a Jersey gambling package via that Stenella bust a few years ago out of Staten Island- a large portion of that sports betting package was in Jersey...

[NJShore4Life]

Stentella Bust

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.silive.c ... ust_co.amp

[TommyNoto]

Yeah those are the guys but not that impressed , fairly weak stuff but they do have the boxer

[Rocco]

The Gambinos had a Jersey gambling package via that Stenella bust a few years ago out of Staten Island- a large portion of that sports betting package was in Jersey...

The guys lived in NJ. But the action was out of NY. And most of those guys nabbed in NJ. Moved to NJ from SI. Gambino's are small potatoes in NJ. Genovese and Lucheses have taken over all Gambino action 20yrs ago.