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Genovese and Pleas

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When did taking pleas begin to be used as a consistent strategy by the Genovese, and who were the ones who began to do it?
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Seems like it became common in the 1990s.
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It likely started after then Consiglieri Jimmy Ida went to trial and got life while his codefendents (Bellomo, Genoroso among others) took pleas and were out in less than 10 years.


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Around the time Giuliani turned the Southern District of NY into a bionic kick to the balls to whomever dared going to trial.

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Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Sun Mar 26, 2017 2:07 pm It likely started after then Consiglieri Jimmy Ida went to trial and got life while his codefendents (Bellomo, Genoroso among others) took pleas and were out in less than 10 years.


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No idea. I would imagine he had a say in a major policy decision like that.


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One of gottis best moves was the no plea rule. If I recall correctly his brother gene had a very reasonable offer on the table he wasn't allowed to take and got 50 years at trial
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Pete wrote: ↑Sun Mar 26, 2017 7:15 pmOne of gottis best moves was the no plea rule
Gene might disagree.
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Pete wrote: ↑Sun Mar 26, 2017 7:15 pm One of gottis best moves was the no plea rule. If I recall correctly his brother gene had a very reasonable offer on the table he wasn't allowed to take and got 50 years at trial
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I think it was mentioned in this board that Gene Gotti received 50 years because Carneglia told a journalist he will piss on the judges grave and that's why the judge gave such a high sentence instead of a more normal one.
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Morons . They should have plead out.
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