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joeycigars wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2017 10:39 am Merlino and Pasty might have a gift here
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Im betting they walk. If they have good lawyers and im sure they do,they will start questioning the integrity of the FBI and the feds wont want a major scandal so they will let them walk,regroup and try again next time. Merlino has got something most bosses havent had in a long time,plain old good fucking luck.
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I could be wrong but i dont see how they dont walk
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TommyNoto wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:32 pm They are going to question his credibility which matter a great deal . If defense can make his info look suspect to the jury then those 4 years don't matter
Exactly, it has nothing to do with the other 4 years of recordings. On top of his credibility there is an issue of his lack of federal supervision casting doubt as well.

Merlino walks or gets a sweet plea.

Parello has a bit tougher road but probably the same. Maybe not because he ordered violence but who knows.
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OK, youre confusing the shit out of me here Cheech.

Cheech wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:46 am I could be wrong but i dont see how they dont walk
Cheech wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:57 pm None of it matters. If there is misconduct it gets thrown out. They cant even find some debriefings.

They walk
My opinion, they're not walking. 4 years is still four years. People were screaming all the Garbage guys were going to walk after it came out the CI was a pedophile. Alot of charges still stuck and most took plea's.

They'll plead but we're a long way of dismissal.
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we'll see.
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See if Merlino could make it to the end out on bail , He seems to lose sight after a while, This looks like it will drag on for a while and then some, The Feds could put Merlino away for a few years just waiting for trial Like they did Ligambi , Time is time
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Cheech was saying, if I'm not mistaken, that the four years don't matter ultimately, if they can find even a tad bit of misconduct by the federal agents whom were conducting the case, the case gets thrown out. He also mentioned how they can't even find some federal written reports (debriefings). The first point is pretty much what everyone else is getting at.
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^^ pretty much. I'm no legal expert but this looks really bad.
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Papa Smurf case the witness was and garbageman can correct me if im wrong had undesirable as a witness. this case has lost evidence. a years worth. not good.
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I have a friend of mine who is a DA. I can ask his opinion.
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Very interested to hear what he has to say.
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SonnyBlackstein wrote:OK, youre confusing the shit out of me here Cheech.

Cheech wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:46 am I could be wrong but i dont see how they dont walk
Cheech wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:57 pm None of it matters. If there is misconduct it gets thrown out. They cant even find some debriefings.

They walk
My opinion, they're not walking. 4 years is still four years. People were screaming all the Garbage guys were going to walk after it came out the CI was a pedophile. Alot of charges still stuck and most took plea's.

They'll plead but we're a long way of dismissal.
Huge difference between the Papa Smurf case and here. This CI tampered with his device and appears to have possibly committed crimes while under FBI supervision. That's fucked up.
With Papa Smurf, we all took plea deals before we knew the CI was a pedophile. Once it came out that the CI was a pedophile, Fappiano and Bazzini both went from facing RICO charges and 20 years to being offered 18 months on the eve prior to the trial. Everyone who got their charges dismissed, got those deferred after Hughes was outed as a chomo. 12 low level individuals, who never should've been indicted in the first place. Thank God. One was my female secretary, the other was the scalehouse guy who was diabetic and in a wheelchair, both had no clue what was going on. Seeing Preet get fired last week almost made up for the 7 months in Otisville.... Almost*
Teflon john wrote:Im betting they walk. If they have good lawyers and im sure they do,they will start questioning the integrity of the FBI and the feds wont want a major scandal so they will let them walk,regroup and try again next time. Merlino has got something most bosses havent had in a long time,plain old good fucking luck.

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Cheech wrote:Papa Smurf case the witness was and garbageman can correct me if im wrong had undesirable as a witness. this case has lost evidence. a years worth. not good.
Yeah cheech, the CI was basically just an embarrassing witness. If it wasn't for Fappiano and Bazzini taking it to trial, no one would've ever found out he was a pedophile. Everyone who did time in that case, pled out before that info came to light. The case was a failure after that

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I think this new info regarding the CI is going to cripple this case. The FBI do not enjoy being made to look like fools before pretrial motions are even finished with. This is a disaster for them and the SDNY. I wouldn't be surprised if a superceding indictment is the only thing they can do to save the day.

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