Tampa/Trafficante Family Lineage

[kasparoza]

I believe I saw Jr mention something of it.. I know alite was cohorting around with jimmy calandra although calandra is not a scum bag like alite... Which reminds me I have to see if he will answer those questions that he agreed to since my fb ban is up... But good for you glad it led to other things for you and you are either doing something you truly enjoy or making a lot of money or both!!!!


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Thank you I appreciate it. PS I never met Calandra personally and while I hope he's living a productive life, I have to think that only a certain kind of person would hang out with Alite, vouch for him, take pictures with him, and promote his story as "the truth" -- especially when you know it's all a lie and he's not "a changed man," especially when he's committing a new crime just by hanging out with you.

I believe calandra was duped into it.. They were both attending the goodfellas for God thing in Ohio and alite was spewing the bullshit and the fake charity work etc etc calandra called him out on it a while ago in public. I have a liking for calandra he's always been nothing but respectful and a gentleman to me. But I do believe he was duped or was paid or was perhaps trying to cash in on alites fame at the time bc I know jimmy wouldn't mind hitting it big with a tv deal or big book deal... Other then the nat geo doc he was on everything in the entertainment industry he has done flopped. So I think it was prob one of those 3 things but I would say it's been 4 years since calandra pulled the plug on alite as well as the goodfellas for God people they will not have him any where near them lol so ya know its fuckin bad...


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Lol I really couldn't tell you either way. I know Frank Gangi called him out as a fraud on Facebook lol.
Hard for me to believe any of these guys would have been "duped" though. Maybe they're trying to cash in on each other and perhaps just help each other as no else will -- they're like lepers almost -- but anyone from that world knows Alite's story is one big lie. Anyone who's been in the streets even just on a fringe level would see right through Alite's story as hogwash.

I've wondered though if all these cooperators sit around and compare each other's lies. "No, no, say you killed 20 people instead of three, you'll sell more copies!" lol.

[sdeitche]

On the question regarding if there was ever a consilgliere position in the Tampa family, short answer is not officially. After Santo Jr's death, when LoScalzo took over, some fo the remaining old timers had an advisory council to settle matters and offer advice. The members were Jimmy Longo, Arthur Perla (brother of Mario Perla who was killed in 1939), Al Scaglione (brother of gambler Nick Scaglione), Tom Diecidue

[sdeitche]

JOe "Baby Joe" Diez, and Sam Trafficante, Santo's brother.

[kasparoza]

On the question regarding if there was ever a consilgliere position in the Tampa family, short answer is not officially. After Santo Jr's death, when LoScalzo took over, some fo the remaining old timers had an advisory council to settle matters and offer advice. The members were Jimmy Longo, Arthur Perla (brother of Mario Perla who was killed in 1939), Al Scaglione (brother of gambler Nick Scaglione), Tom Diecidue

Scott have you seen "Live By Night" yet?
If so what do you think of it and Tampa's depiction in it?
And in the book?

I haven't seen it yet but I loved the book and remember Dennis Lehane giving you/your tour a shout out and thank you in it.

[sdeitche]

On the question regarding if there was ever a consilgliere position in the Tampa family, short answer is not officially. After Santo Jr's death, when LoScalzo took over, some fo the remaining old timers had an advisory council to settle matters and offer advice. The members were Jimmy Longo, Arthur Perla (brother of Mario Perla who was killed in 1939), Al Scaglione (brother of gambler Nick Scaglione), Tom Diecidue

Scott have you seen "Live By Night" yet?
If so what do you think of it and Tampa's depiction in it?
And in the book?

I haven't seen it yet but I loved the book and remember Dennis Lehane giving you/your tour a shout out and thank you in it.

Have not seen it yet but heard it's good. Too bad they couldn't film in Tampa, due to no tax incentives from the State. They ended up recreating Ybor City in Brunswick Georgia.

I've known Dennis for a number of years, super nice guy and fantastic author. I took him on a tour around Ybor to show him some of the old sites while he was researching the book.

[Rocco]

Maybe you guys can answer this in regards to LoScalzo and whatever is left of his crew down there being under the Gambino's. If they are under the Gambino's and Alite was down there doing business using Trucchio's name and that of the Gambinos when infact he was shelved and chased out. And Trucchio got a life sentence because Alite was using his name when he shouldn't have been. If it wasn't Alite or Trucchio operating under the Gambino flag down there...then who was? Who was in Charge for the Gambinos down in Tampa during that time frame? Who was the Gambino's guy down in Tampa insuring the money flowed up to NY and watched over LoScalzo and his crew down there?

[Rocco]

Raffa and Ligammari were paesani. Raffa had a friendship with Francesco Polizzi.

Yeah I knew that. Ligammaris were tied to the Bonanno Heroin trade . Frank Polizzi (decav)was a another Heroin dealer so I assumed all these Sicilian Smack dealers knew each other in one way or another. Raffa's history is kinda gray. He made his way to South East Florida from the NY area back in the late 70s or early 80s. He did business with guys from the Colombo's , Lucheses, Bonannos and Gambino;s down there in the 80s. Fencing stolen goods , drugs and money laundering. I know that he had some interaction with Tumac and his Hollywood Luchese crew in the early 80s down there. I have to assume it was moving Cocaine being that it was the 80s and South Florida was flooded with Cocaine and drug money that needed to be laundered. The 80s were an interesting period down there. You had criminals from all walks of life doing business together down there. If you had a successful money laundering operation down there during that time you were like the next coming of Christ.

[sdeitche]

Maybe you guys can answer this in regards to LoScalzo and whatever is left of his crew down there being under the Gambino's. If they are under the Gambino's and Alite was down there doing business using Trucchio's name and that of the Gambinos when infact he was shelved and chased out. And Trucchio got a life sentence because Alite was using his name when he shouldn't have been. If it wasn't Alite or Trucchio operating under the Gambino flag down there...then who was? Who was in Charge for the Gambinos down in Tampa during that time frame? Who was the Gambino's guy down in Tampa insuring the money flowed up to NY and watched over LoScalzo and his crew down there?

Joe Arcuri was the liaison in the mid 90s till ?? according to law enforcement. Vincent Amato in the Miami faction was a Gambino guy who drifted over to the Trafficantes as well. I dont have any information of Gambino guys in Tampa after the Trucchio case.

Things get murky in the early 2000s after the Miami faction bust because law enforcement attention was diverted elsewhere, especially in Tampa. Organized crime took a big backseat to anti-terrorism in the FBI and the FDLE focused more on white collar crime. My information drops off significantly after 2008/09. But many of the old timers have gone as well. LoScalzo will be 80 in 2017 and most of the guys around him are getting up there in age.

[sdeitche]

A couple recent Tampa articles:

Cesar Rodriguez article- he died in March 2016: http://www.tbo.com/news/politics/tampas ... -20160319/

Trafficante's widow's obit: http://www.tbo.com/Obituaries/traffican ... -20150515/

Santo Jr auction of personal items (I didnt win any- got outbid) http://www.tampabay.com/news/business/r ... ry/2263021

[Cheech]

I hope this weirdo Kasparoza doesmt start over here with the rants. No one can care that much about another person.
The more you talk about this guy the more yiu give him credence. Alite comes off as a low life loser liar. Leave it at that. NO one reads your long winded posts bud. Stay overr at gbb. They eat your stuff up. There is real researchers here.

I checked the narrative on his site and he does come across as genuine. I know so little about John Alite, I didn't read the book by Capeci or Anastasia- I don't even recall at the moment who the fuck wrote it- that's how ignorant I am of the subject. But browsing through his site I've seen some interesting points made and something that piqued my interest. There was a part about Truchio's name getting dropped by Alite in Florida and Kas claims he didn't have the permission to use Truchio's name.

I live in Florida, I knew a Puerto Rican/Cuban guy who was a drug dealer in his spare time. He thought I was Spanish I told him I was Sicilian and regretted it ever since. He started bringing up the mafia and talking about Al Capone, John Gotti the usual shit. But then he asked me if I knew Ronnie One Arm. I told him I have no idea who the fuck he's talking about and then says Ronnie Truchio. He claims the two knew each other and while he didn't indicate himself he says his boys got locked up with him for a narcotics bust. This guy was someone who liked to embellish so I assumed was probably full of shit. But after reading Kas' site it got me remember that conversation from 2011 or so. Seems poor Ronnie's name was getting dropped by everyone down here.

Anyways, at least Kas provides his own argument that's apparently backed up with sources. As I stated I just have no fucking idea about Trucchio other than that my gangster Puerto Rican/Cuban? barber told me without asking. So perhaps those with more expertise can go through his site and write up a review.

Who could care that much about another human being?

[kasparoza]

John Mamone and Tony S

[kasparoza]

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[Cheech]

looks like tony soprano

chris maybe i was a little hard on you. welcome to the boards. merry christmas

[kasparoza]

looks like tony soprano

chris maybe i was a little hard on you. welcome to the boards. merry christmas

For about 4 - 6 months maybe when I was graduating from college, I did stand up comedy. I stopped, it wasn't for me, but I'm glad I did it. There's no experience in your life you'll ever have like getting booed off the stage by 200 black and Puerto Rican people.
Especially when the girl you're trying to impress is sitting in the second row.

But what I'm getting at is, it takes a certain kind of thick skin and sense of humor to do this stuff, and when people make these ridiculous insults over the internet, anonymously, it is kind of funny to me lol. One time I read some of them to John G. We had a good laugh.

Thank you for the welcome, Cheech. Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to you and yours as well.

[Rocco]

Maybe you guys can answer this in regards to LoScalzo and whatever is left of his crew down there being under the Gambino's. If they are under the Gambino's and Alite was down there doing business using Trucchio's name and that of the Gambinos when infact he was shelved and chased out. And Trucchio got a life sentence because Alite was using his name when he shouldn't have been. If it wasn't Alite or Trucchio operating under the Gambino flag down there...then who was? Who was in Charge for the Gambinos down in Tampa during that time frame? Who was the Gambino's guy down in Tampa insuring the money flowed up to NY and watched over LoScalzo and his crew down there?

Joe Arcuri was the liaison in the mid 90s till ?? according to law enforcement. Vincent Amato in the Miami faction was a Gambino guy who drifted over to the Trafficantes as well. I dont have any information of Gambino guys in Tampa after the Trucchio case.

Things get murky in the early 2000s after the Miami faction bust because law enforcement attention was diverted elsewhere, especially in Tampa. Organized crime took a big backseat to anti-terrorism in the FBI and the FDLE focused more on white collar crime. My information drops off significantly after 2008/09. But many of the old timers have gone as well. LoScalzo will be 80 in 2017 and most of the guys around him are getting up there in age.

So Joe Arcuri was the guy that made sure money flowed to NY and not Alite? Wasn't Malone and Cadicamo ny gambino assoicates under Alite? I am trying to make sense of the claim Alite was shelved and chased if the indictment states theses guys were under Alite and they were sending money to JR or Ronnie well after the eraly 90s. Alite operated in South Jersey and FL. He was also running a crew of known Gambino associates from NY and there is no way it didn't get back to NY . It was bigger then just Alite. No way they wernt sending money to someone in NY.