Tampa/Trafficante Family Lineage

[sdeitche]

hello S. didn't

I few questions for Scott on the current state of Tampa. Isnt it pretty much dead?? The Ronnie one Arm and Alite related indictments seem to indicate there were a few old Tampa associates working directly for the Gambinos? Like the the Gambino's moved into town and just took whatever was left of the family. The last sitting boss of the Tampa mob was alive and well thru-out the Gambino's entire reign down there.

Here is a good article on Mamone : http://www.browardpalmbeach.com/news/the-snitch-6343148

One of my first meetings with law enforcement official when I started my research, in 1997/98, he told me "you know the Trafficantes are under the Gambinos now." So it was known to law enforcement. Mamone told this investigator after he flipped that he was made into the family in the mid 1990s at Malios in Tampa by Raffa with a couple old timers present and that Raffa todl him they were "wit" the Gambinos. I dont know exactly how JOhn ended up with Raffa, though Raffa had a lot of ties with various families in South Florida dating back to the ealry 80s, which is where he came into contact with Trafficante. Raffa is form the same area of Siciliy as many of the Tampa guys so that was likely a connection.

[Rocco]

Thanks Scott. It looks like that Raffa was tied to some Sicilian herion guys from the Bonanno family as well. So it looks like Raffa was always a FL guy and never a NE guy who found his way into the Tampa mob. Looks like he was always a SE FL guy and never really from Tampa either?

[kasparoza]

JOE ARCURI'S godfather was Santo sr.

Yeah, and Joe's father Domenico was Santo' Jr's godfather. Domenico left Tampa around 1917 when Joe was born and moved to NYC.

The Joe Franco on that chart above is Joe Arcuri's nephew.

John Alite told me when he was down in Tampa for Gotti Jr. in the early 90s, Joe Arcuri was the liaison between the Trafficante guys and the Gambinos due to his family connections to Tampa. That follows FDLE intel as well.

John Alite lied to you. He got chased by Gotti out of Queens after Gravano flipped in late 1991. Interestingly, in Gotti's 2008 indictment out of Tampa, in the discovery material, there were 302s from an informant connected to the Trafficante family, a blood relation, who was dropping dimes on Alite in Tampa for several years in the mid 90s - I think 1993 to 96. He said that Alite had told him he had a falling out with Gotti in New York and wasn't allowed in the city. I don't know about the Arcuri stuff but Alite wasn't on record with the Gambinos in Tampa. Anything he was doing down there was on his own. He might have still been friends with Ronnie Trucchio in NY but he wasn't an official associate. In letters he wrote from Brazil when he was in prison there he also described how he wasn't operating in New York.

The Tampa informant, who's name I don't want to say publicly because he never surfaced as a cooperator and ended up going to prison and doing time later on without testifying against people -- Scott I'd tell you who it is though off of this forum with evidence to back it up that you can confirm with your Florida law enforcement sources -- in the 302s he said that Alite was dropping Trucchio's name all over Florida, extorting people in his name, etc. Telling people that they better pay because he reports to "Ronnie" in NY (not Gotti).

It's believed that he got Trucchio indicted out of Tampa, saying Alite was running his crew down there, but that Trucchio was never really involved with Tampa, Alite was just using his name without Trucchio's knowledge. They were still friends after Alite got chased but Alite wasn't allowed to use his name, he did it on his own. Everyone I've spoken to in NY believes that Trucchio is doing a life bid for the Tampa stuff which in reality he had zero involvement with.

John Gotti confirmed this in interviews as did other people, including others who were indicted with him in 2008. The evidence, including Alite's letters from Brazil and wiretaps of him saying over the phone that he was no longer operating in NY, confirm this.

You can find Alite's letters and other stuff related to him being chased at the link below. He talks about how he was scared to go into NY. Alite even talks about how he was meeting with FBI agents in the 1990s (years before how he now says he flipped in 2007) and one of the agents even offered for Alite to live with him in his house when Alite thought he was going to get killed. Alite even testified to this in court (why did Anastasia leave that out of his book?).

http://JohnAliteFacts.com/Chased

[sdeitche]

JOE ARCURI'S godfather was Santo sr.

Yeah, and Joe's father Domenico was Santo' Jr's godfather. Domenico left Tampa around 1917 when Joe was born and moved to NYC.

The Joe Franco on that chart above is Joe Arcuri's nephew.

John Alite told me when he was down in Tampa for Gotti Jr. in the early 90s, Joe Arcuri was the liaison between the Trafficante guys and the Gambinos due to his family connections to Tampa. That follows FDLE intel as well.

John Alite lied to you. He got chased by Gotti out of Queens after Gravano flipped in late 1991. Interestingly, in Gotti's 2008 indictment out of Tampa, in the discovery material, there were 302s from an informant connected to the Trafficante family, a blood relation, who was dropping dimes on Alite in Tampa for several years in the mid 90s - I think 1993 to 96. He said that Alite had told him he had a falling out with Gotti in New York and wasn't allowed in the city. I don't know about the Arcuri stuff but Alite wasn't on record with the Gambinos in Tampa. Anything he was doing down there was on his own. He might have still been friends with Ronnie Trucchio in NY but he wasn't an official associate. In letters he wrote from Brazil when he was in prison there he also described how he wasn't operating in New York.

The Tampa informant, who's name I don't want to say publicly because he never surfaced as a cooperator and ended up going to prison and doing time later on without testifying against people -- Scott I'd tell you who it is though off of this forum with evidence to back it up that you can confirm with your Florida law enforcement sources -- in the 302s he said that Alite was dropping Trucchio's name all over Florida, extorting people in his name, etc. Telling people that they better pay because he reports to "Ronnie" in NY (not Gotti).

It's believed that he got Trucchio indicted out of Tampa, saying Alite was running his crew down there, but that Trucchio was never really involved with Tampa, Alite was just using his name without Trucchio's knowledge. They were still friends after Alite got chased but Alite wasn't allowed to use his name, he did it on his own. Everyone I've spoken to in NY believes that Trucchio is doing a life bid for the Tampa stuff which in reality he had zero involvement with.

John Gotti confirmed this in interviews as did other people, including others who were indicted with him in 2008. The evidence, including Alite's letters from Brazil and wiretaps of him saying over the phone that he was no longer operating in NY, confirm this.

You can find Alite's letters and other stuff related to him being chased at the link below. He talks about how he was scared to go into NY. Alite even talks about how he was meeting with FBI agents in the 1990s (years before how he now says he flipped in 2007) and one of the agents even offered for Alite to live with him in his house when Alite thought he was going to get killed. Alite even testified to this in court (why did Anastasia leave that out of his book?).

http://JohnAliteFacts.com/Chased

As an author I look at all the available evidence and information and sides. Lisa and I have said we'd be happy to talk with John G to get his side, and I know Lisa talked with him on the phone. If it comes to fruition I'd be happy to get his take on the Tampa situation at the time.

My interest was in Tampa connections and Johns assertion that Arcuri was a Tampa liaison is backed up by the FDLE and Tampa PD intel at that time.

As for the informant (who Im fairly certain I know as well but agree on not putting his name) I knew John A name back in he late 90s through a Tampa PD source, so yeah someone was informing to the cops.

[sdeitche]

Thanks Scott. It looks like that Raffa was tied to some Sicilian herion guys from the Bonanno family as well. So it looks like Raffa was always a FL guy and never a NE guy who found his way into the Tampa mob. Looks like he was always a SE FL guy and never really from Tampa either?

Raffa came through NYC, but was in South Florida in the early 80s onwards. Yes, he was tied with Sicilian drug traffickers in South Florida. Never lived in Tampa.

[phatmatress777]

hello S. didn't john marmone flip? he was made in that family ?.he flipped around 2002

Yeah, but he was only tied to the Miami faction under Steve Raffa and came from NY so didn't have the depth of knowledge of the family's Tampa lineage. His testimony and information was really relegated to Miami operations in the late 1990s.

Mamone didn't really touch anyone in Tampa. Just his guys and the Raffa crew he was in. Mamone was a Jersey Guy who was an associate in the old John Digilio / Bayonne crew. His longtime partner in crime was Paul "Doc" Gaccione who went down for the same hit that got Angelo Prisco life. Doc's and Mamone's chances of getting made into the westside went down the tubes after DiGilio was killed. Mamone flew the coop to South FL in the 90s and Doc hung around but Prisco never made him and distance himself from him later. I am not sure how or who led Mamone to Raffa. Raffa was connected to Ligammari who was in NJ when he killed himself in 99' But I believe Ligammari, was in jail from the md 80s to the mid 90s. To be honest I don't know enough about Raffa either. If he was originally Tampa or NY ? Or even how he ended up in the Tampa mob.

I few questions for Scott on the current state of Tampa. Isnt it pretty much dead?? The Ronnie one Arm and Alite related indictments seem to indicate there were a few old Tampa associates working directly for the Gambinos? Like the the Gambino's moved into town and just took whatever was left of the family. The last sitting boss of the Tampa mob was alive and well thru-out the Gambino's entire reign down there.

Here is a good article on Mamone : http://www.browardpalmbeach.com/news/the-snitch-6343148

That was a great article sparked an interest in Florida that I never really had before...


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[toto]

Raffa and Ligammari were paesani. Raffa had a friendship with Francesco Polizzi.

[Cheech]

I hope this weirdo Kasparoza doesmt start over here with the rants. No one can care that much about another person.
The more you talk about this guy the more yiu give him credence. Alite comes off as a low life loser liar. Leave it at that. NO one reads your long winded posts bud. Stay overr at gbb. They eat your stuff up. There is real researchers here.

[Angelo Santino]

I hope this weirdo Kasparoza doesmt start over here with the rants. No one can care that much about another person.
The more you talk about this guy the more yiu give him credence. Alite comes off as a low life loser liar. Leave it at that. NO one reads your long winded posts bud. Stay overr at gbb. They eat your stuff up. There is real researchers here.

I checked the narrative on his site and he does come across as genuine. I know so little about John Alite, I didn't read the book by Capeci or Anastasia- I don't even recall at the moment who the fuck wrote it- that's how ignorant I am of the subject. But browsing through his site I've seen some interesting points made and something that piqued my interest. There was a part about Truchio's name getting dropped by Alite in Florida and Kas claims he didn't have the permission to use Truchio's name.

I live in Florida, I knew a Puerto Rican/Cuban guy who was a drug dealer in his spare time. He thought I was Spanish I told him I was Sicilian and regretted it ever since. He started bringing up the mafia and talking about Al Capone, John Gotti the usual shit. But then he asked me if I knew Ronnie One Arm. I told him I have no idea who the fuck he's talking about and then says Ronnie Truchio. He claims the two knew each other and while he didn't indicate himself he says his boys got locked up with him for a narcotics bust. This guy was someone who liked to embellish so I assumed was probably full of shit. But after reading Kas' site it got me remember that conversation from 2011 or so. Seems poor Ronnie's name was getting dropped by everyone down here.

Anyways, at least Kas provides his own argument that's apparently backed up with sources. As I stated I just have no fucking idea about Trucchio other than that my gangster Puerto Rican/Cuban? barber told me without asking. So perhaps those with more expertise can go through his site and write up a review.

[sdeitche]

Raffa and Ligammari were paesani. Raffa had a friendship with Francesco Polizzi.

Raffa and Vincent LoScalzo attended Pietro Ligamarris wedding.

Always interesting that the Ligamarris and Raffa hung themselves.

[phatmatress777]

The alite thing is a beat horse he has melted down on fb lost a lot publicity he had when his book came out etc etc I will say that kas site is very professional (I believe payed for and backed by the gottis) but who cares if it is or isn't...I will say this that kas is pretty knowledgeable about the Jr gotti regime of the 90s... He does have other things to talk about from the era... However it's his choice to stay on the alite bullshit or actually join conversation and be addition here...


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[kasparoza]

The alite thing is a beat horse he has melted down on fb lost a lot publicity he had when his book came out etc etc I will say that kas site is very professional (I believe payed for and backed by the gottis) but who cares if it is or isn't...I will say this that kas is pretty knowledgeable about the Jr gotti regime of the 90s... He does have other things to talk about from the era... However it's his choice to stay on the alite bullshit or actually join conversation and be addition here...


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It's lead to a larger project. A series of them really, one of which I am working on it with John G and Richard Stratton, not about Alite so to speak but the Witness program and how all these informants are released back into the community and commit new crimes together and terrorize and scam regular tax paying citizens right under the nose of the FBI. For instance a journalist Peter Lance contacted Alite's sentencing judge last year and told her and backed up with evidence that he was committing new crimes, associating with other O.C. informants/felons in violation of his parole, threatening people, yet he was not violated. Why?

I can't get into details at the moment but some really sick, scandalous shit was uncovered.

It's called Witsec Mafia, a video preview is on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIfIshKICZU&t=61s

[phatmatress777]

I believe I saw Jr mention something of it.. I know alite was cohorting around with jimmy calandra although calandra is not a scum bag like alite... Which reminds me I have to see if he will answer those questions that he agreed to since my fb ban is up... But good for you glad it led to other things for you and you are either doing something you truly enjoy or making a lot of money or both!!!!


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[kasparoza]

I believe I saw Jr mention something of it.. I know alite was cohorting around with jimmy calandra although calandra is not a scum bag like alite... Which reminds me I have to see if he will answer those questions that he agreed to since my fb ban is up... But good for you glad it led to other things for you and you are either doing something you truly enjoy or making a lot of money or both!!!!


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Thank you I appreciate it. PS I never met Calandra personally and while I hope he's living a productive life, I have to think that only a certain kind of person would hang out with Alite, vouch for him, take pictures with him, and promote his story as "the truth" -- especially when you know it's all a lie and he's not "a changed man," especially when he's committing a new crime just by hanging out with you.

[phatmatress777]

I believe I saw Jr mention something of it.. I know alite was cohorting around with jimmy calandra although calandra is not a scum bag like alite... Which reminds me I have to see if he will answer those questions that he agreed to since my fb ban is up... But good for you glad it led to other things for you and you are either doing something you truly enjoy or making a lot of money or both!!!!


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Thank you I appreciate it. PS I never met Calandra personally and while I hope he's living a productive life, I have to think that only a certain kind of person would hang out with Alite, vouch for him, take pictures with him, and promote his story as "the truth" -- especially when you know it's all a lie and he's not "a changed man," especially when he's committing a new crime just by hanging out with you.

I believe calandra was duped into it.. They were both attending the goodfellas for God thing in Ohio and alite was spewing the bullshit and the fake charity work etc etc calandra called him out on it a while ago in public. I have a liking for calandra he's always been nothing but respectful and a gentleman to me. But I do believe he was duped or was paid or was perhaps trying to cash in on alites fame at the time bc I know jimmy wouldn't mind hitting it big with a tv deal or big book deal... Other then the nat geo doc he was on everything in the entertainment industry he has done flopped. So I think it was prob one of those 3 things but I would say it's been 4 years since calandra pulled the plug on alite as well as the goodfellas for God people they will not have him any where near them lol so ya know its fuckin bad...


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