Speculation on Merlino's involvement in DiPietro hit

[moneyman]

I like Scott's stuff but I feel like if this was legit George Anastasia would have written about it before Scott, or it would have at least appeared in a Gangland…

Post Ligambi-trial Philly looks like it's pretty stable besides Merlino getting arrested for the pain cream.

[phatmatress777]

I have a hard time believing this had any sanctioning to it....


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[Stroccos]

There have been a number of hits where guys have used their own cars.

Planned hits?

And that is the key point here.
Whether the hit was planned or spur of the minute.

Its obviously possible that the hit was planned. But is it probable?

Logically you'd have to admit that it is highly unlikely a professional hitman would do so on a planned hit.

guess we will never know unless someone flips, zero chance the feds indict merlino for that murder without nicodemo etc on wiretap and or someone dircetly involded flipping.
maybe they we where doing recon or something oh shit there he is right there , Maybe high as fuck ? they see the target and for some dumb reason decide to take him out right there

[Fughedaboutit]

jesus, more Scott bashing. smh

Don't read his stuff then if you dislike it so much. Some people live to break his balls.

I do agree with Chucky's assessment on the Gongs theory though.

[Angelo Santino]

Scott Burnstein attempts to be the non-NYC ganglandnews and there are many people that appreciate his attempts. I think people gloss over or forgot the errors in Capeci's work over the years. His Idiot's Guide To The Mafia is filled with errors and had Scott written the exact same work he would have been burned at the stake for each and every little mistake. But due to Capeci's longevity he gets a pass.

He does get early history wrong, for what reasons I do not know. I and others have explained it to him and provided proof and over the phone he agrees but then goes right back to labeling Lucky Luciano the Founding Godfather of the LCN national syndicate and every boss who happened to be tenured during that year are credited as being the "Founding Dons." I've since given up trying to correct him.

Second, his plethora of colorful buzzwards 'Cheesesteak Goodfella,' 'Godfather,' 'Don' etc I can only surmise is to generate interest from people who aren't maybe so knowledgeable about the topic. I highly doubt Merlino or any boss in the last 25 years were referred to under such a title but again, small potatoes.

[B.]

Scott Burnstein attempts to be the non-NYC ganglandnews and there are many people that appreciate his attempts. I think people gloss over or forgot the errors in Capeci's work over the years. His Idiot's Guide To The Mafia is filled with errors and had Scott written the exact same work he would have been burned at the stake for each and every little mistake. But due to Capeci's longevity he gets a pass.

He does get early history wrong, for what reasons I do not know. I and others have explained it to him and provided proof and over the phone he agrees but then goes right back to labeling Lucky Luciano the Founding Godfather of the LCN national syndicate and every boss who happened to be tenured during that year are credited as being the "Founding Dons." I've since given up trying to correct him.

Second, his plethora of colorful buzzwards 'Cheesesteak Goodfella,' 'Godfather,' 'Don' etc I can only surmise is to generate interest from people who aren't maybe so knowledgeable about the topic. I highly doubt Merlino or any boss in the last 25 years were referred to under such a title but again, small potatoes.

Side note, but what's funny about relatives of mobsters these days is they are all about posting Godfather, Sopranos, Al Capone, Luciano, etc. photos on social media. These guys and their families have always been all about seeing "themselves" in Hollywood, but it kind of gets into that old topic I made "Mobsters knowledge of their own history" or whatever it was called. How many guys out there today probably think Lucky Luciano brought it all together and created "La Cosa Nostra"? I'd say a lot of them, especially in a family like Philly where there was a major gap between generations.

[moneyman]

Scott Burnstein attempts to be the non-NYC ganglandnews and there are many people that appreciate his attempts. I think people gloss over or forgot the errors in Capeci's work over the years. His Idiot's Guide To The Mafia is filled with errors and had Scott written the exact same work he would have been burned at the stake for each and every little mistake. But due to Capeci's longevity he gets a pass.

He does get early history wrong, for what reasons I do not know. I and others have explained it to him and provided proof and over the phone he agrees but then goes right back to labeling Lucky Luciano the Founding Godfather of the LCN national syndicate and every boss who happened to be tenured during that year are credited as being the "Founding Dons." I've since given up trying to correct him.

Second, his plethora of colorful buzzwards 'Cheesesteak Goodfella,' 'Godfather,' 'Don' etc I can only surmise is to generate interest from people who aren't maybe so knowledgeable about the topic. I highly doubt Merlino or any boss in the last 25 years were referred to under such a title but again, small potatoes.

Excuse my ignorance but are you implying that Luciano did not create the commission or rather he did not have a major role in establishing the creation of the five families?

[Angelo Santino]

Scott Burnstein attempts to be the non-NYC ganglandnews and there are many people that appreciate his attempts. I think people gloss over or forgot the errors in Capeci's work over the years. His Idiot's Guide To The Mafia is filled with errors and had Scott written the exact same work he would have been burned at the stake for each and every little mistake. But due to Capeci's longevity he gets a pass.

He does get early history wrong, for what reasons I do not know. I and others have explained it to him and provided proof and over the phone he agrees but then goes right back to labeling Lucky Luciano the Founding Godfather of the LCN national syndicate and every boss who happened to be tenured during that year are credited as being the "Founding Dons." I've since given up trying to correct him.

Second, his plethora of colorful buzzwards 'Cheesesteak Goodfella,' 'Godfather,' 'Don' etc I can only surmise is to generate interest from people who aren't maybe so knowledgeable about the topic. I highly doubt Merlino or any boss in the last 25 years were referred to under such a title but again, small potatoes.

Side note, but what's funny about relatives of mobsters these days is they are all about posting Godfather, Sopranos, Al Capone, Luciano, etc. photos on social media. These guys and their families have always been all about seeing "themselves" in Hollywood, but it kind of gets into that old topic I made "Mobsters knowledge of their own history" or whatever it was called. How many guys out there today probably think Lucky Luciano brought it all together and created "La Cosa Nostra"? I'd say a lot of them, especially in a family like Philly where there was a major gap between generations.

It's a case of history repeating itself. Mafiosi always had a love with their depiction on screen and in plays before that as far back as 1890. I've met and spoken with old timers (not necessarily made members BTW) in NYC and they will tell you about the Sicilian Vespers story as if it's established history.

Excuse my ignorance but are you implying that Luciano did not create the commission or rather he did not have a major role in establishing the creation of the five families?

No ignorance at all, you've gone on what you've read. But the truth is all 5 families existed long before Luciano. And in the case of the commission as a concept and idea, they've existed since (at least) the 1920's. Now one can argue that Luciano was instrumental in replacing the Boss of Bosses with a national commission and that's debatable. But the ranks, the organization, everything, goes back to at least 1885 Sicily and most likely before then. In my opinion, Luciano was in the right place at the right time and there's a difference between Luciano the Man and Luciano the Legend. Same goes for Al Capone. It didn't hurt matters any that Anslinger pumped Luciano up to be bigger than he was, his conviction of him catapulted Anslinger into a higher status and thus his career was helped by the the Luciano legend. Same with most prosecutors to this very day.

I avoid Luciano because I feel he was 'instrumental' in forming absolute shit but to argue against that is to lose the interest of people who want and need to believe in the idea of a "Lucky Luciano." There are people- who are my equals and more so- who disagree with me. They feel Charley Lucky had a major influence in forming the commission and traveling the country to implement it. I, on the other hand, feel that since commissions existed since the 1920's at least it was not a new idea, and since NY was the epicenter, whatever came out of that wouldn't have to be questioned. Luciano himself, was a playboy, loved his prostitutes and enjoyed the merits of being an outlaw. This lifestyle was an aberration to the likes of a Mangano, Bonanno, Profaci and Gagliano- men who all came from a long line of mafia tradition- all of whom were married, had a household and were for the most part, family men. But for a nobody such as myself to question the great legend of Luciano, I am rendered a 'mob revisionist" and somebody looking for attention. So I leave it at that and work around Mr. Lucky Luciano.

And note: I don't want to sound pompous or arrogant but Luciano's background has no place in this thread. The discussion is around 2010 Philadelphia. If you want to discuss this further, start a new thread, I'll weigh in but so will Antiliar who is a great source of info (who happens to disagree with me) as well as others and you can make your own decision. I have no ego in this, just a quest for the truth. There are times when I am wrong so do not take my word for it, do your own inquiry. I would however, suggest The Academic Article written by Antiliar, Lennert and yours truly here: http://informer-journal.blogspot.com/p/ ... y-may.html where we cover the American Mafia from 1850-1920's.

And, as much as it pains me (on a personal level because I generally hate the fucker for robbing me and others of our hard earned research/info and introduced as "by Dave C") to do so, I highly suggest Dave Critchley's: The Origin of Organized Crime in America. Search for it on Amazon. The information is accurate albeit outdated but not entirely wrong.

[Pogo The Clown]

Now one can argue that Luciano was instrumental in replacing the Boss of Bosses with a national commission and that's debatable.

Corporations have a board of directors. So will we. A commission.


Pogo

[Angelo Santino]

Now one can argue that Luciano was instrumental in replacing the Boss of Bosses with a national commission and that's debatable.

Corporations have a board of directors. So will we. A commission.


Pogo

Luciano: You want it, Al, it's yours!
Capone: Hmmm....No, I want you to do it. Just that Julius Ceasar never took no vote.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaBjIWvHMNw

[SonnyBlackstein]

jesus, more Scott bashing. smh

Don't read his stuff then if you dislike it so much. Some people live to break his balls.

No one is bashing Scott. People are criticizing aspects of his work.

Understand the difference.



No ones work should be immune from question.

[JCB1977]

The government won't stop until the skinny guinea is locked up for a long time...it will happen, it's a matter of time.

[Chucky]

The government won't stop until the skinny guinea is locked up for a long time...it will happen, it's a matter of time.

This...this I can't argue with, Borgesi too.

[UTC]

Merlino won't stop until he's locked up either.

[JCB1977]

Merlino won't stop until he's locked up either.

He's well on his way to another sentence. He's fucked at trial, the tapes will convict him...or shall I say his own words will convict him. FBI will certainly bring an indictment in the future on murder charges...somebody is going to get jammed up and start talking.