The true Carlo Gambino

[bronx]

where was scalice from Chris

[bronx]

the sicilians had elizabeth street, joe traina had a club there, with some others loyal to daquila

[Angelo Santino]

Everyone was on Elizabeth Street, not just Sicilians. At Eliz and Prince it was very Sicilian, down by Eliz and Hester less so. Very much a shared area due to chain migration. And it served for many as a landing point, since property couldn't be bought and Italians hated paying rent (which was unheard of in the homeland) which is why many families (lower case f) doubled up in sharing single bedroom apartments until they could afford purchasing property in other boroughs of NYC. This expansion of the demographic, if you will, paved way to southern (not South) Brooklyn and the Bronx enclaves which gave us the Colombos and Luccheses as we call them today.

[Angelo Santino]

But going forward onto the (somewhat more modern) Gambino era, I'm curious as to the crews, I asked this in this thread or another thread: the origins and lineage of the Dellacroce crews. It's an era I'm less knowledgeable about and can learn from. The Virzi-Riccobono-Scalici, Trovato-Mangano, and e39th Lo Cicero factions are more known to me from research. The Dellocroce faction, which may or may not have involved Anastasia and later on Fatico-Gotti, are areas I could do well to get schooled on.

I do know this: Dellacroce wasn't part of the Palermitan nucleus so to speak, neither was Anastasia. Some element or faction made them influential enough to obtain administrative positions. After 1940 being this or that meant less, but affiliations and crews continued based on how the train tracks were laid in its foundations.

[HairyKnuckles]

where was scalice from Chris

The Scalises were from Palermo. I don´t know what specific part of Palermo though.

[Angelo Santino]

where was scalice from Chris

The Scalises were from Palermo. I don´t know what specific part of Palermo though.

Palermo Centro. Scalici was the original spelling.

[bronx]

thank you,

[Dwalin2014]

By the way, John Scalish from Cleveland was related to them too by chance? What was his real original last name? Scalise, Scalice, Scalici? I mean, "Scalish" was oblviously a modification.

[B.]

Carlo Gambino's sister Giuseppa/Josephine married a Giammona, I believe Giovanni "John" Giammona. He was a descendant of Antoninio Giammona, the earliest known Palermo Mafia boss. He was the boss of Uditore from the 1860s or 1870s to the 1890s, and his son-in-law was a Giuseppe Riccobono. So the Gambinos have a long lineage in the Mafia.

I started reading Lupo's "History of the Mafia" a couple weeks back (a lot to process in there) and saw Giammona's name and thought there might be a connection. I wonder why Leo Giammona ended up with the Luccheses rather than the Gambinos.

I also wondered about the Giuseppe Biondo who is mentioned as a mafia leader from that era of Sicily, though the Joseph Biondo in the Gambinos was from eastern Sicily so it's unlikely he was related.

There is a history of Calabrese Gambino members going back to the 1920s, but it's a much smaller faction than a family like the Genovese. What's weird is that despite being a minority they managed to have a number of influential members over the years with Anastasia obviously being the top one.

[Angelo Santino]

The Lucchese Family, when it was constituted in the 1920's amassed an unknown number of Palermitans, including Three Finger Lucchese himself who, correct me if I'm wrong, also came from a Mafia background. Whether the Bronx Corleonesi welcomed the Palermitans with a red carpet or just recruited locally is up for debate. Bronx had a sizable Palermitan populaton which is why D'Aquila had members there as well as lived there in his later years and ultimately met his demise there.

Biondo is a common surname but there might have been a relation. We'd have to hire a genealogist to be certain. Palermo families (lower f) were related to people in Sciacca (hence the Capitalized F connection within the Gambinos). Sicily from Tapani to Messina is only 80-some miles, not very large at all.

The Gambino's non-Sicilian membership is an area I admittedly know very little about. I have noticed that plenty of members were on or had business on Mott and parts of Mulberry and downtown Brooklyn which was very Compagnian whereas other parts of Mulberry and Elizabeth were Calabrian along with Boerum Hill to the Bushwick sections of Brooklyn. Amazingly, Williamsburg had a higher concentration of Calabrians than they did Sicilians (ie Castellammaresi).

[BillyBrizzi]

Carlo Gambino's sister Giuseppa/Josephine married a Giammona, I believe Giovanni "John" Giammona. He was a descendant of Antoninio Giammona, the earliest known Palermo Mafia boss. He was the boss of Uditore from the 1860s or 1870s to the 1890s, and his son-in-law was a Giuseppe Riccobono. So the Gambinos have a long lineage in the Mafia.

I started reading Lupo's "History of the Mafia" a couple weeks back (a lot to process in there) and saw Giammona's name and thought there might be a connection. I wonder why Leo Giammona ended up with the Luccheses rather than the Gambinos.

I also wondered about the Giuseppe Biondo who is mentioned as a mafia leader from that era of Sicily, though the Joseph Biondo in the Gambinos was from eastern Sicily so it's unlikely he was related.

There is a history of Calabrese Gambino members going back to the 1920s, but it's a much smaller faction than a family like the Genovese. What's weird is that despite being a minority they managed to have a number of influential members over the years with Anastasia obviously being the top one.

I think he shares that nr. 1 spot with Frank Costello.

[BillyBrizzi]

EDIT FOR ABOVE POST: I see know that you probably only meant the Mangano/Gambino family B.

[JCB1977]

By the way, John Scalish from Cleveland was related to them too by chance? What was his real original last name? Scalise, Scalice, Scalici? I mean, "Scalish" was oblviously a modification.

Scalise. But I've seen him referred to as Scalici but I've found no legal documentation on ship manifests to support this. Scalish had two sisters, one married Scalish's best childhood friend, Maishe Rockman and the other was married to Angelo Lonardo.

[AlexfromSouth]

The Lucchese Family, when it was constituted in the 1920's amassed an unknown number of Palermitans, including Three Finger Lucchese himself who, correct me if I'm wrong, also came from a Mafia background. Whether the Bronx Corleonesi welcomed the Palermitans with a red carpet or just recruited locally is up for debate. Bronx had a sizable Palermitan populaton which is why D'Aquila had members there as well as lived there in his later years and ultimately met his demise there.

Biondo is a common surname but there might have been a relation. We'd have to hire a genealogist to be certain. Palermo families (lower f) were related to people in Sciacca (hence the Capitalized F connection within the Gambinos). Sicily from Tapani to Messina is only 80-some miles, not very large at all.

The Gambino's non-Sicilian membership is an area I admittedly know very little about. I have noticed that plenty of members were on or had business on Mott and parts of Mulberry and downtown Brooklyn which was very Compagnian whereas other parts of Mulberry and Elizabeth were Calabrian along with Boerum Hill to the Bushwick sections of Brooklyn. Amazingly, Williamsburg had a higher concentration of Calabrians than they did Sicilians (ie Castellammaresi).

Tell me please if you know where in South Brooklyn (Red Hook, Carroll Gardens, Gowanus) were the Sicilians placed, lived? My understanding is that Gowanus ( area around Montes restaurat, 3rd ave, 4th ave) was pretty much people from, as you say, Campania. Is that true?

[Angelo Santino]

Columbia, Van Brunt, President, N 2nd, Hicks, Union, Sackett, Degraw, Columbia Heights up to Water and Main St's. It's kinda forgotten now but Sicilians had a thriving colony there as early as the 1850's. It evidently was large enough by 1860 for Valerio Lanzirotti and Charles La Fata, staunch Lincoln supporters, to form the Italian Garibaldi Republican Wide-Awake Club. Compagnans began arriving in the 1870's and used Mulberry Bend as a landing point, in time many left for Jersey, others went to Italian Brooklyn and shared the area with the larger Sicilian population. None of these streets or neighborhoods were 100% homogeneous.