The clutching hand

[Antiliar]

This link has some info you may find interesting:

http://www.oocities.org/nymafia2001/towhom.html

http://www.oocities.org/nymafia2001/

[B.]

This link has some info you may find interesting:

http://www.oocities.org/nymafia2001/towhom.html

http://www.oocities.org/nymafia2001/

Confirms that Peraino was known as "the Clutching Hand" on the street and strongly indicates that he was part of the Masseria family. Everyone else the victim dealt with (at least Carfagno, "James Demino" (Generoso), Sandino Pandolfo, Tony Bender... not sure about Gerardo Scarpato) were Masseria/Genovese members.

[OlBlueEyesClub]

Good stuff there, Antiliar. Its crazy how actual sources from the time, differ from the sources, or lack thereof available to us today. Though I should've known, as Yale was a Masseria guy if I'm not mistaken, so if Peraino did take over his criminal interests, he'd be aligned with Masseria. Despite t he constant switching of sides during the Castellamarese War.

[Antiliar]

Good stuff there, Antiliar. Its crazy how actual sources from the time, differ from the sources, or lack thereof available to us today. Though I should've known, as Yale was a Masseria guy if I'm not mistaken, so if Peraino did take over his criminal interests, he'd be aligned with Masseria. Despite t he constant switching of sides during the Castellamarese War.

There's another document that indicates that Peraino was ordered killed by Manfredi Mineo, and that Peraino's associates included Tony "the Chief" Bonasera and Johnny "Bath Beach" Oddo -- both known Profaci guys, so it's confusing. There was a lot of overlap and a lot of mystery for this time period.

[HairyKnuckles]

Good stuff there, Antiliar. Its crazy how actual sources from the time, differ from the sources, or lack thereof available to us today.

The big problem with this is to figure out if the new info is more accurate than the old one. Sometimes the original info is "tampered" with or gets diluted with time and eventually gets a life of its own. But then there is also info that sets the record straight and debunks the old one.

There's another document that indicates that Peraino was ordered killed by Manfredi Mineo, and that Peraino's associates included Tony "the Chief" Bonasera and Johnny "Bath Beach" Oddo -- both known Profaci guys, so it's confusing. There was a lot of overlap and a lot of mystery for this time period.

I think the document indicates that Mineo ordered the death of Peraino´s son Carmine.

Some researchers claim that the Yale group was splintered into different Families after his death. So it´s possible although being closely associated with eachother, the former Yale group members belonged to different Families.

Another one who is a mystery to me (and his Family affiliation) is Filippo Picataggi. When murdered back in 1931, it was said that he was into real estate and a former Yale associate (if I remember correctly). It seems Picataggi was active in the Bensonhurst section. But that doesn´t help at all finding out his affiliation.

A lot of guys in that part of Brooklyn were being killed around the time but their deaths are not attributed to the Castellammarese War. Even Oddo and Bonasera were shot at. Makes me believe that Oddo and Bonasera joined the Profacis at a later stage unless Profaci was involved in a war of his own that somehow all Mafia historians and researchers seems to have missed.

[Angelo Santino]

From the time Mineo arrived in 1911 he had a set alliance with Harlem and maybe Williamsburg. Meanwhile Mineo's brother in law boss of Resuttana did business with D'Aquila and was even sent money to him for the Palermo citrus wars.

[B.]

I think the document indicates that Mineo ordered the death of Peraino´s son Carmine.

Some researchers claim that the Yale group was splintered into different Families after his death. So it´s possible although being closely associated with eachother, the former Yale group members belonged to different Families.

Another one who is a mystery to me (and his Family affiliation) is Filippo Picataggi. When murdered back in 1931, it was said that he was into real estate and a former Yale associate (if I remember correctly). It seems Picataggi was active in the Bensonhurst section. But that doesn´t help at all finding out his affiliation.

A lot of guys in that part of Brooklyn were being killed around the time but their deaths are not attributed to the Castellammarese War. Even Oddo and Bonasera were shot at. Makes me believe that Oddo and Bonasera joined the Profacis at a later stage unless Profaci was involved in a war of his own that somehow all Mafia historians and researchers seems to have missed.

Yeah I don't know what to believe now as far as affiliations go. The doc Rick posted makes it seem that the victim was on record with the Masseria family and as members died and structure changed, different Masseria members, Peraino among them, took over the victim's "account".

But then you throw in Oddo and Bonasera, plus as JD said Peraino's paesani who ended up with the Profaci family. Oddo and Bonasera weren't from typical Profaci areas in Sicily, so that makes your last point more of a possibility to me... that Oddo and Bonasera were associated with the Masseria family and went with the Profacis after the dramatic changes going on in South Brooklyn during that period.

[Antiliar]

I forgot another person associated with that group was Salvatore "Sally the Sheik" Mussachio, also an important Profaci/Colombo guy. It's possible that these guys were originally under Frankie Yale and when his crew was broken up the Sicilian contingent went with Mineo and Profaci, and the non-Sicilians stayed with Masseria. They all lived in Bensonhurst, which was Yale's territory.