Vito Guzzo, Jr. Being Recruited Hard By Mancuso.

[Pmac2]

ray Sr made abunch of guys in worcester in 1956. he did it as a favor to the capo going to jail and in a rush to make his crew. and a few of the Springfield guys. they list the guys. carlo,pinky and a few scibellis. Ray makes them and releases them to the genovese family .also this is 56 Costello is in charge was he making guys. Ray was caught on tape giving anguilo the whole breakdown

[JakeTheSnake630]

Didn't Patriarca make some guys and immediately transfer them to the Genovese? Pretty Sure I read that somewhere. Also, don't forget Anthony Raimondi promises he was made by the Bonnanos and then transferred to the Colombos But if the Ray Patriarca thing is true that would be precedent for transferring made guys no? What about Neil Migliore? Was he made by the the Buffalino's and transferred?

Wasn't it Allie Persico Sr. the Patriarca's did this with as a favour to Carmine?

Pretty sure the guys Ray Sr made went to the Springfield faction of the Genovese. I forget if Nicky Bianco was made by Ray and transferred to the Columbus briefly, vice versa, or if he was just sent as peace broker during the Gallo wars. Also if I am not mistaken Henry Tamello was a Bonanno before he came to the Patriarcas. I could be mistaken though.

[B.]

Didn't Patriarca make some guys and immediately transfer them to the Genovese? Pretty Sure I read that somewhere. Also, don't forget Anthony Raimondi promises he was made by the Bonnanos and then transferred to the Colombos But if the Ray Patriarca thing is true that would be precedent for transferring made guys no? What about Neil Migliore? Was he made by the the Buffalino's and transferred?

Wasn't it Allie Persico Sr. the Patriarca's did this with as a favour to Carmine?

Pretty sure the guys Ray Sr made went to the Springfield faction of the Genovese. I forget if Nicky Bianco was made by Ray and transferred to the Columbus briefly, vice versa, or if he was just sent as peace broker during the Gallo wars. Also if I am not mistaken Henry Tamello was a Bonanno before he came to the Patriarcas. I could be mistaken though.

I made a thread a while back about the rumor that Tameleo was originally a Bonanno member and could find no substance to support it or where that idea originally comes from: viewtopic.php?t=9371

The thread also goes into other NE transfers, etc.

[furiofromnaples]

Thanks to CT - Ct from reddit.


\--Per SBs ‘exclusive’ sources & reporting, reputed Bonanno consigliere Anthony ‘Bruno’ Indelicato has communicated with the Bronx-based admin to pursue a ‘more deliberate, less impulsive’ approach in the recruitment of recently-released, Colombo affiliated figure Vito Guzzo Jr in what would amount to a ‘transfer’ between families. In fact, per the current reporting, three of SBs sources note that recently Indelicato has allegedly advised Mancuso to ‘pump the breaks’ in any efforts to bring Guzzo Jr into the Bonannos and to ‘let the situation breathe’ for a bit.

 \--SB continues to assert that, as a result of Guzzo Jr allegedly being made while imprisoned, his ‘status’ as a formal LCN member remains in question, which may allow him to act as a something of a ‘free agent’ for NYCs crime families and enable a transfer to another organization.

 \--SB also continues to assert that reputed Bonanno boss Michael ‘Mikey Nose’ Mancuso (aged 69) is strongly pursuing such a move for Guzzo Jr as he and Guzzo Jr (aged 60) are reported to have become ‘close friends’ while serving time together. Moreover, SB reports that Mancuso has reputedly reached out to Colombo leadership about the possibilities of a transfer of Guzzo Jr to the Bonannos (again per SBs sources).

 \--Per the current article, a transfer of Guzzo Jr to the Bonannos would make some theoretical sense given his ties to that family. In addition to his reputed, current day links to Mancuso, SB notes that Guzzo Jr came up via the Caffe Giannini crew, with the café being a Bonanno-run spot \[it was the base of operations for Bonanno ‘Baldo’ Amato\]. Guzzo Jr also reportedly has other links to heavyweights in the Bonanno family.

 \--Finally, it’s not necessarily only the Bonannos that Guzzo Jr has links to and who may be theoretical suitors for a transfer. For instance, his older brother, Anthony, is allegedly a made man in the Lucchese family, with SB reporting that this organization (as well as the Gambinos) have also reputedly expressed interest in bringing Guzzo Jr in the fold \[that is, of course, dependent upon whether his ‘made’ status is in question & the Colombos are willing to engage in a transfer\].

 \--SB concludes by speculating that whatever family Guzzo Jr ends up aligning with may mean he has to go through another induction ceremony \[even if he stays with the Colombos\]; this is the ‘consensus’ that has been reached among SB sources who feel that a prison ceremony may not be recognized as legitimate by any currently operating family admin.

[JakeTheSnake630]

Didn't Patriarca make some guys and immediately transfer them to the Genovese? Pretty Sure I read that somewhere. Also, don't forget Anthony Raimondi promises he was made by the Bonnanos and then transferred to the Colombos But if the Ray Patriarca thing is true that would be precedent for transferring made guys no? What about Neil Migliore? Was he made by the the Buffalino's and transferred?

Wasn't it Allie Persico Sr. the Patriarca's did this with as a favour to Carmine?

Pretty sure the guys Ray Sr made went to the Springfield faction of the Genovese. I forget if Nicky Bianco was made by Ray and transferred to the Columbus briefly, vice versa, or if he was just sent as peace broker during the Gallo wars. Also if I am not mistaken Henry Tamello was a Bonanno before he came to the Patriarcas. I could be mistaken though.

I made a thread a while back about the rumor that Tameleo was originally a Bonanno member and could find no substance to support it or where that idea originally comes from: viewtopic.php?t=9371

The thread also goes into other NE transfers, etc.

Thanks B. Also, I know Double Deal podcast has been mentioned on here, by far the best NE OC podcast out there. They dropped a short Bianco episode the other day where they say Bianco was either made by the Colombos in 57' before Appalachian or by Ray in 62'. They thought the Colombo story was more believable because the books were still open then and were supposed to be closed after Appalachian.

[Aces]

Due to all the publicity regarding Guzzo, The FBI and BOP is now actively looking to recruit him to make license plates.

[Hired_Goonz]

This is starting to remind me of the hype surrounding Lebron when he became a free agent the first time. If Guzzo has a brain he will take his talents to South Beach so to speak and get the hell away from the mob life - what kind of retard wants to be part of a "secret society" that has absolutely no secrecy?

[furiofromnaples]

This is starting to remind me of the hype surrounding Lebron when he became a free agent the first time. If Guzzo has a brain he will take his talents to South Beach so to speak and get the hell away from the mob life - what kind of retard wants to be part of a "secret society" that has absolutely no secrecy?

One that made 28 years in prison,is a brokester and that his only way to make money is be made in a family that can give him a good racket. Damn is 60 y old and spend half of his life in prison,what honest job could find?

[SonnyBlackstein]

This is the dumbest crap ever

Scott knows that Bruno told Mancuso to be 'more deliberate/less impulsive'.

How? Seriously. How in the living fuck would Scott know that? And verbatim to boot.

Bruno picking up Scott's number and calling it in? Mikey?
Feds have a wire but are willing to expose it so Burnstein gets another 50 views and 3 more subs?

Do some basic thinking furio & friends.

[Etna]

On IG i believe theres a post showing Anthony Guzzo greeting Vito as he exits prison.

[B.]

Didn't Patriarca make some guys and immediately transfer them to the Genovese? Pretty Sure I read that somewhere. Also, don't forget Anthony Raimondi promises he was made by the Bonnanos and then transferred to the Colombos But if the Ray Patriarca thing is true that would be precedent for transferring made guys no? What about Neil Migliore? Was he made by the the Buffalino's and transferred?

Wasn't it Allie Persico Sr. the Patriarca's did this with as a favour to Carmine?

Pretty sure the guys Ray Sr made went to the Springfield faction of the Genovese. I forget if Nicky Bianco was made by Ray and transferred to the Columbus briefly, vice versa, or if he was just sent as peace broker during the Gallo wars. Also if I am not mistaken Henry Tamello was a Bonanno before he came to the Patriarcas. I could be mistaken though.

I made a thread a while back about the rumor that Tameleo was originally a Bonanno member and could find no substance to support it or where that idea originally comes from: viewtopic.php?t=9371

The thread also goes into other NE transfers, etc.

Thanks B. Also, I know Double Deal podcast has been mentioned on here, by far the best NE OC podcast out there. They dropped a short Bianco episode the other day where they say Bianco was either made by the Colombos in 57' before Appalachian or by Ray in 62'. They thought the Colombo story was more believable because the books were still open then and were supposed to be closed after Appalachian.

I don't know who does Double Deal but we know for a fact that Bianco was made in a 1963 ceremony in an NYC restaurant and that Patriarca and Tameleo visited NYC to officiate. They received special permission from the Commission to induct him as it was felt Bianco could help mediate the Gallo conflict and he was a NE member between 1963 and 1965 then transferred to the Colombos in 1965 until 1973 when he transferred back to NE.

We have sources like Scarpa who can confirm all this. If you're in touch with Double Deal you can tell them this is all available in FBI files.

[Aces]

Amen to Sonnyblackstein's comments. Agree.

[scott22]

I’m being totally sincere in asking this :

Is the argument that active mobsters don’t talk to reporters or is it more that mobsters would never talk to me personally?

Scott

[Eline2015]

Per sources...

[Pogo The Clown]

At this point there is no difference between Per Sources and Vacari.


Pogo