Why hasn't Italian OC in America adopted the practice of making women the same as men?

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Re: Why hasn't Italian OC in America adopted the practice of making women the same as men?

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Really good Info gents. Great contributions all
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sdeitche wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 7:47 am Curious how many instances of women working with their male Mafia counterparts (e.g. husbands, brothers, etc) there are?

In Tampa there are several examples of women being involved in bolita operations. Frank Diecidue and his wife Rose comes to mind. She was arrested with him.
In the 70s the California Rivero bolita syndicate (tied to the Trafficantes) employed women as sellers.
It wasn't too rare for wives, sisters, mothers, and female relatives to help with gambling operations, bootlegging, and those kinds of operations even among the Sicilians. Nothing remotely organizational but low-level operational assistance wasn't uncommon.
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Its been a very long time since reading the book Gomorrah but when I read it it had I wanna say 3 separate stories on female bosses

Licarddi
Scissor group of the secogidgloano clan
And Il pupparo

And I remember reading about a few others as well.

In all 3 case the women started there reigns bc there husbands were imprisoned bosses - but it seemed all 3 got power hungry and took over after awhile

Similar to how they did it in the TV show
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Makes me think of the movie THE KITCHEN

Pretty decent

Been lotta Tubi gangster movies coming out lately
Interesting a few on mafia women
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One interesting case from Sicily is that of Giusy Vitale. She was alleged to be the de facto boss of Partinico in 1998. With three brothers in jail or on the run she was utilized both as an acting Boss and a messenger. She was 27 yrs old at the time.

It seems she was accepted both in and out of Partinico, as she personally met with both LeoLuca Bagarella and Giovanni Brusca.

It wasn’t "official", she wasn’t a member and she was arrested two months later and flipped. But still, it might be the closest thing to a donna d'onore we've seen in Sicily.
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Proletarian187 wrote: Mon Apr 07, 2025 5:27 am it might be the closest thing to a donna d'onore we've seen in Sicily.
I believe this honor goes to a person I mentioned earlier in the thread Rosalia Messina Denaro who’s brother was the highest ranking boss in Sicily so while not an initiated member of Cosa Nostra she was treated as such by the members of the Castelvetrano family because she was acting on behalf of him.

Rosalia Messina Denaro, 67, also known as Rosetta, was herself detained in Sicily on mafia membership charges on Friday, with the Carabinieri - Italian police - releasing a 57-page arrest warrant detailing some of the circumstances which led to her brother's earlier arrest.

The warrant reveals that police found a note inside the leg of an aluminium chair in Rosalia's home in the town of Castelvetrano, in the west of the island, while trying to plant a listening device inside during an operation in December.

She is alleged to have played a major role in her mafia family, acting as treasurer, with police saying she communicated with her brother using the code name "Fragolone", or "big strawberry".
The warrant described Rosalia as a woman with "origins and traditions all inspired by an orthodox and rock-hard mafia culture".

The warrant says she is under investigation for being part of the mafia organisation and committing crimes through her membership, helping her brother escape numerous jail sentences, helping him continue in his role as boss of the organisation, and making sure other members of the organisation could communicate with him while he was hiding from the authorities.
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Currently watching SEND NO FLOWERS on Tubi and it's American version of female boss daughter taking over

Pretty good considering
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