Nove Tocco Q&A notes (31 Jan)

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This is a partial family tree I put together based on my understanding of things:
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Is it just me or does it seem like this guy would have much more info on Detroit and their history or is he holding back?
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JoePuzzles234 wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 2:50 am This is a partial family tree I put together based on my understanding of things:
toccozerillift.png
Good tree and it all looks accurate to me. We can see that Dr031718 was correct in his previous post, as Jack Tocco and Nove’s mother Josephine Zerilli, were indeed first cousins (Josephine’s father Joe Z was the brother of Black Bill’s wife Rosalia Zerilli; as noted above, their mother was also a Tocco but it’s unclear if she was related in any significant way to any of these other Toccos). In his discussion with Scott, Nove was obviously saying that the two *Tocco* lines as such were only distantly related (to me it seems to have been quite distant), as distinct from relatedness via the Zerilli line.
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JoePuzzles234 wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 2:50 am This is a partial family tree I put together based on my understanding of things:
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Wasn’t there a Vito “Billy” Tocco who was a made member? If so, do you know if Jack Sr and Anthony Sr is the father?
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pharion wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 10:03 pm
JoePuzzles234 wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 2:50 am This is a partial family tree I put together based on my understanding of things:
toccozerillift.png
Wasn’t there a Vito “Billy” Tocco who was a made member? If so, do you know if Jack Sr and Anthony Sr is the father?
Outside of Black Bill Tocco, father of Giacomo William and Anthony Joseph, I've never seen another Vito/Billy Tocco identified as a Detroit member
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JoePuzzles234 wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 2:50 am This is a partial family tree I put together based on my understanding of things:
toccozerillift.png
This is really neat. Great job on the family tree. Love seeing things like this. Was this all done through ancestory? I know it’s hard because a lot of these guys have the same first names and surnames but are not technically related. This must’ve taken some time to decipher all the guys. Great job again.
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I believe it’s in the first Patreon episode but above said specifically that he is NOT related at all to Jack Tocco. Totally distinct family tree he said . His uncle was Anthony Zerelli and his grandfather was Joe Zerelli
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*that should say Nove not above
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7digits wrote: Sun Mar 23, 2025 8:41 am I believe it’s in the first Patreon episode but above said specifically that he is NOT related at all to Jack Tocco. Totally distinct family tree he said . His uncle was Anthony Zerelli and his grandfather was Joe Zerelli
Jack Tocco’s father was his Great uncle. Jack Tocco’s mother was Joe Zerrillis sister so Nove and Jack Tocco would be 2nd cousins
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Tocco686 wrote: Sun Mar 23, 2025 8:22 am
JoePuzzles234 wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 2:50 am This is a partial family tree I put together based on my understanding of things:
toccozerillift.png
This is really neat. Great job on the family tree. Love seeing things like this. Was this all done through ancestory? I know it’s hard because a lot of these guys have the same first names and surnames but are not technically related. This must’ve taken some time to decipher all the guys. Great job again.
I'm glad you find it valuable, I became interested in Detroit largely because of your posts

It was put together using Ancestris and Geneanet - luckily there are some FBI documents and partial family trees on websites like Findagrave and FamilySearch that help as a baseline
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