General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

[funkster]

I would tend to agree that given the recent GR focus on the Cicero crew’s socializing and instagram accounts, the article seemed a little underwhelming. By all accounts this seems to be a fairly high dollar outfit bust directly tied to Bobby D. I think it’s a safe assumption he wasn’t the only “investor” in these businesses. Sweepstakes machines are classic outfit stuff.

Side note- was back in Chicago for a family visit this weekend. Those sweepstakes/video gambling machines are everywhere. Crazy how popular they have become. Some big $$ being made.

Huge amounts of gaming parlors all over the suburbs.

[PolackTony]

I would tend to agree that given the recent GR focus on the Cicero crew’s socializing and instagram accounts, the article seemed a little underwhelming. By all accounts this seems to be a fairly high dollar outfit bust directly tied to Bobby D. I think it’s a safe assumption he wasn’t the only “investor” in these businesses. Sweepstakes machines are classic outfit stuff.

Side note- was back in Chicago for a family visit this weekend. Those sweepstakes/video gambling machines are everywhere. Crazy how popular they have become. Some big $$ being made.

Huge amounts of gaming parlors all over the suburbs.

I was gonna post the same as Coloboy. I made a few trips to Chicago for family stuff over the past 6 months. Over the last several years, the video gaming industry has just exploded in suburban Cook County. Soon as you cross the street from the city into whatever suburban town, any commercial street is just flooded with these places now, it's surreal. And then within the city limits, these sweepstakes machines are *everywhere* -- seems like every corner store, diner, bar, and gas station has them now and people are lined up playing them like it's the slot machines in the fuckin Vegas airport. Bunch of my older relatives play them all the time at their bars and these places are for sure illegally cashing out under the table. Christmas morning and there was a freakin line of people waiting to play the machines at the gas station by my inlaws up in Rogers Park lol. This shit is a huge cash cow for the companies that control and deliver these machines, no doubt. I never seen anything like it. Here in NYC, there is nothing remotely equivalent. I know a couple of places in the Bx with a backroom and a couple of machines with the usual "for entertainment purposes" tagline on them, but honestly hardly ever see anyone playing them. The recent explosion of legal and graymarket "sweepstakes" gaming in Chicagoland is unlike any other town that I'm personally familiar with.

[NorthBuffalo]

I got a good chuckle at this...

@jmetr22b
Before his arraignment today, Bobby Dominic, the 71-year-old proprietor of Richard's Bar and alleged hidden partner in sweepstakes gaming businesses, told a court pretrial services officer he's been retired since age 38.


https://x.com/jmetr22b/status/1895535869391757511

I find it odd that Scott B can only put out a generic article about the Bobby Dominic indictment when this story is a lot bigger than what’s being reported. Obviously whatever sources he has is not very good.

If you know it’s much bigger than what’s being reported why don’t you share the information with us instead of hating on Scott who’s giving us the chance to interact with Mob Royalty like Nove Tocco and soon to bring on others on Patreon from around the country from New York, Chicago,Philly,New England, KC and the west coast. For mob buffs like me this is the dream on Patreon. We’re getting mafia history here up close like never before

Hardly call a rat associate like Nove Tocco mob royalty. Not saying it’s not interesting but I’m just a little disappointed he did only a generic piece on Dominic and it was a day or two after it hit the papers.

The bigger story is that Bobby Dominic is higher up in the Outfit then some of the guys he has written about and controls a multi million dollar operation (Sweep Stake Machines) among other things.

More that Bobby Dominic 'inherited' some of the protection rackets Frank Schweis was running - and they still had enough clout in the late 90s to scare Russian mobsters away from prostitution houses Weiss was running. It shows a moneymaker like Jim Weiss was still paying off politicians and kicking up to the mob in Chicago - big money too. That was interesting to me.

[Coloboy]

FWIW...about 5-6 years ago when it certainly seemed like the feds were really going after Vena/Grand Ave, one of the quotes that came out from LE (I'm paraphrasing) was that the crew maintained extensive relationships with the CPD and political figures, which seems to dovetail with this sweepstakes deal. I would imagine that Bobby D. is very well connected both politically and with local LE. Hence, no penalties for smoking violations at Richards. Same probably goes for Vena and Spina.

[Richards_bar]

I got a good chuckle at this...

@jmetr22b
Before his arraignment today, Bobby Dominic, the 71-year-old proprietor of Richard's Bar and alleged hidden partner in sweepstakes gaming businesses, told a court pretrial services officer he's been retired since age 38.


https://x.com/jmetr22b/status/1895535869391757511

I find it odd that Scott B can only put out a generic article about the Bobby Dominic indictment when this story is a lot bigger than what’s being reported. Obviously whatever sources he has is not very good.

If you know it’s much bigger than what’s being reported why don’t you share the information with us instead of hating on Scott who’s giving us the chance to interact with Mob Royalty like Nove Tocco and soon to bring on others on Patreon from around the country from New York, Chicago,Philly,New England, KC and the west coast. For mob buffs like me this is the dream on Patreon. We’re getting mafia history here up close like never before

Hardly call a rat associate like Nove Tocco mob royalty. Not saying it’s not interesting but I’m just a little disappointed he did only a generic piece on Dominic and it was a day or two after it hit the papers.

The bigger story is that Bobby Dominic is higher up in the Outfit then some of the guys he has written about and controls a multi million dollar operation (Sweep Stake Machines) among other things.

More that Bobby Dominic 'inherited' some of the protection rackets Frank Schweis was running - and they still had enough clout in the late 90s to scare Russian mobsters away from prostitution houses Weiss was running. It shows a moneymaker like Jim Weiss was still paying off politicians and kicking up to the mob in Chicago - big money too. That was interesting to me.

Dominic didn’t inherit anything from schweis. There were no Russians. That was a story invented by Joe Weiss. He liked to brag about his brother and sometimes made stuff up to make him seem like a big shot. It came back to bite him. Obviously.

[NorthBuffalo]

I got a good chuckle at this...

@jmetr22b
Before his arraignment today, Bobby Dominic, the 71-year-old proprietor of Richard's Bar and alleged hidden partner in sweepstakes gaming businesses, told a court pretrial services officer he's been retired since age 38.


https://x.com/jmetr22b/status/1895535869391757511

I find it odd that Scott B can only put out a generic article about the Bobby Dominic indictment when this story is a lot bigger than what’s being reported. Obviously whatever sources he has is not very good.

If you know it’s much bigger than what’s being reported why don’t you share the information with us instead of hating on Scott who’s giving us the chance to interact with Mob Royalty like Nove Tocco and soon to bring on others on Patreon from around the country from New York, Chicago,Philly,New England, KC and the west coast. For mob buffs like me this is the dream on Patreon. We’re getting mafia history here up close like never before

Hardly call a rat associate like Nove Tocco mob royalty. Not saying it’s not interesting but I’m just a little disappointed he did only a generic piece on Dominic and it was a day or two after it hit the papers.

The bigger story is that Bobby Dominic is higher up in the Outfit then some of the guys he has written about and controls a multi million dollar operation (Sweep Stake Machines) among other things.

More that Bobby Dominic 'inherited' some of the protection rackets Frank Schweis was running - and they still had enough clout in the late 90s to scare Russian mobsters away from prostitution houses Weiss was running. It shows a moneymaker like Jim Weiss was still paying off politicians and kicking up to the mob in Chicago - big money too. That was interesting to me.

Dominic didn’t inherit anything from schweis. There were no Russians. That was a story invented by Joe Weiss. He liked to brag about his brother and sometimes made stuff up to make him seem like a big shot. It came back to bite him. Obviously.

I know Jim Weiss was partnered with Schweiss based on the Grand Jury investigations in the 1990s cited in the 2020 trial and sentencing for Weiss. I know Jim Weiss was partnered with Dominic 20 years later because of the business records being reported on. They also have Dominic himself on tape saying Weiss is 'with me.' Knowing how the mob works, I would say that's 'inheriting' - and that story about the Russians is on wiretap.

Maybe 'the streets' are telling you something different

[Richards_bar]

[quote=NorthBuffalo post_id=290424 time=1741030399 user_id=8087]
[quote=Richards_bar post_id=290422 time=1741025091 user_id=4157]
[quote=NorthBuffalo post_id=290418 time=1741014198 user_id=8087]
[quote=Patrickgold post_id=290364 time=1740937410 user_id=6577]
[quote=7digits post_id=290348 time=1740898681 user_id=8600]
[quote=Patrickgold post_id=290329 time=1740870726 user_id=6577]
[quote=Cosmik_Debris post_id=290291 time=1740778278 user_id=6924]
I got a good chuckle at this...

@jmetr22b
Before his arraignment today, Bobby Dominic, the 71-year-old proprietor of Richard's Bar and alleged hidden partner in sweepstakes gaming businesses, told a court pretrial services officer he's been retired since age 38.


https://x.com/jmetr22b/status/1895535869391757511
[/quote]

I find it odd that Scott B can only put out a generic article about the Bobby Dominic indictment when this story is a lot bigger than what’s being reported. Obviously whatever sources he has is not very good.
[/quote]

If you know it’s much bigger than what’s being reported why don’t you share the information with us instead of hating on Scott who’s giving us the chance to interact with Mob Royalty like Nove Tocco and soon to bring on others on Patreon from around the country from New York, Chicago,Philly,New England, KC and the west coast. For mob buffs like me this is the dream on Patreon. We’re getting mafia history here up close like never before
[/quote]

Hardly call a rat associate like Nove Tocco mob royalty. Not saying it’s not interesting but I’m just a little disappointed he did only a generic piece on Dominic and it was a day or two after it hit the papers.

The bigger story is that Bobby Dominic is higher up in the Outfit then some of the guys he has written about and controls a multi million dollar operation (Sweep Stake Machines) among other things.
[/quote]

More that Bobby Dominic 'inherited' some of the protection rackets Frank Schweis was running - and they still had enough clout in the late 90s to scare Russian mobsters away from prostitution houses Weiss was running. It shows a moneymaker like Jim Weiss was still paying off politicians and kicking up to the mob in Chicago - big money too. That was interesting to me.
[/quote]

Dominic didn’t inherit anything from schweis. There were no Russians. That was a story invented by Joe Weiss. He liked to brag about his brother and sometimes made stuff up to make him seem like a big shot. It came back to bite him. Obviously.
[/quote]

I know Jim Weiss was partnered with Schweiss based on the Grand Jury investigations in the 1990s cited in the 2020 trial and sentencing for Weiss. I know Jim Weiss was partnered with Dominic 20 years later because of the business records being reported on. They also have Dominic himself on tape saying Weiss is 'with me.' Knowing how the mob works, I would say that's 'inheriting' - and that story about the Russians is on wiretap.

Maybe 'the streets' are telling you something different
[/quote]
Just because somethings caught on a wire doesn’t make it true, also they are also open for interpretation. People say dumb shit all the time for various reasons. Regardless, I say Dominic beats it, 2-1 odds.
The time to sound

[Patrickgold]

It will be tough to beat it for tax invasion. If the Feds have the numbers then he won’t. He will probably plead out for probation. Interesting that they didn’t hit him with anything else. I think they might add charges on there and also possibly indict the figure heads for these companies.

[NorthBuffalo]

For those of you in the Outfit families groups, I'm saddened to share news that Bruce Neglia passed away. His photos were truly something else as he was a kid with entire Northside Crew visiting his home. He shared a lot of personal stories with me. The photo below was my favorite personally - Ralph Sciaccia Big Joe Arnold.

[7digits]

Polack Tony and others…..

Does anyone think there were any making ceromonies during the 70s and early 80s prior to 83??
IMO I say no because otherwise people like Infelice, Marcello and the Calabrese brothers would have been made already.

[PolackTony]

Polack Tony and others…..

Does anyone think there were any making ceromonies during the 70s and early 80s prior to 83??
IMO I say no because otherwise people like Infelice, Marcello and the Calabrese brothers would have been made already.

We know there was one in ‘76. This one may have been large as it was presumably the first ceremony held following the elevation of Aiuppa to boss (and typically a new boss will hold a ceremony following his installation; hence a large ceremony having been held in ‘56 when Giancana was elevated and one being held in 1988, following Carlisi’s ascent; we would thus expect a significant ceremony to have been held sometime in the mid-70s). Vic “Popeye” Arrigo, who was a CI, told the FBI that he had been proposed for membership at an upcoming ceremony by Caesar DiVarco at this time, and further noted that DiVarco told him that Chicago was opening its books after having been closed “for many years” (Snakes and I have discussed this previously on the board; Arrigo doesn’t seem to have actually wound up getting inducted and it’s quite possible that this was due to the fact that he testified at this time in a FL case against some Tampa guys he was working with).

Obviously, this aligned with NYC reopening their books, though we don’t know if this was a coincidence, in that after Giancana fled the country and Battaglia was imprisoned, Chicago was in leadership crisis for several years, with Accardo and Ricca forced to step up and serve as acting bosses in the interim. For this reason, it’s likely that there had been no new members brought in for at least 10 years by ‘76.

A Milwaukee member informant confirmed that Chicago held a ceremony in ‘76 and also reported that Frank Balistrieri went down to Chicago to be introduced to the inductees (this informant *may* have been Vincent Maniaci, though we don’t know this for a fact). Unfortunately, the names of the members inducted at this time are not known. There are known members where we really don’t know when they were made who *could* well have been made at this time (Joe Andriacchi is one who comes to mind at the moment, another is Toots Caruso).

[Ivan]

Cool info about Balistrieri, I'd never heard about that before.

I'm sure it's been discussed to death but I'm especially interested in when Vena, Sarno, Cataudella, and Inendino were made.

[funkster]

It will be tough to beat it for tax invasion. If the Feds have the numbers then he won’t. He will probably plead out for probation. Interesting that they didn’t hit him with anything else. I think they might add charges on there and also possibly indict the figure heads for these companies.

This is my thought as well, doubt he’ll go to trial he will likely just plead out.


Colo, Walter Burrnett had some very positive things to say in the press about RB and its ownership when all the drama went down with the kid getting stabbed there. So he definitely has clout with a pretty big named alderman.

[Snakes]

Polack Tony and others…..

Does anyone think there were any making ceromonies during the 70s and early 80s prior to 83??
IMO I say no because otherwise people like Infelice, Marcello and the Calabrese brothers would have been made already.

We know there was one in ‘76. This one may have been large as it was presumably the first ceremony held following the elevation of Aiuppa to boss (and typically a new boss will hold a ceremony following his installation; hence a large ceremony having been held in ‘56 when Giancana was elevated and one being held in 1988, following Carlisi’s ascent; we would thus expect a significant ceremony to have been held sometime in the mid-70s). Vic “Popeye” Arrigo, who was a CI, told the FBI that he had been proposed for membership at an upcoming ceremony by Caesar DiVarco at this time, and further noted that DiVarco told him that Chicago was opening its books after having been closed “for many years” (Snakes and I have discussed this previously on the board; Arrigo doesn’t seem to have actually wound up getting inducted and it’s quite possible that this was due to the fact that he testified at this time in a FL case against some Tampa guys he was working with).

Obviously, this aligned with NYC reopening their books, though we don’t know if this was a coincidence, in that after Giancana fled the country and Battaglia was imprisoned, Chicago was in leadership crisis for several years, with Accardo and Ricca forced to step up and serve as acting bosses in the interim. For this reason, it’s likely that there had been no new members brought in for at least 10 years by ‘76.

A Milwaukee member informant confirmed that Chicago held a ceremony in ‘76 and also reported that Frank Balistrieri went down to Chicago to be introduced to the inductees (this informant *may* have been Vincent Maniaci, though we don’t know this for a fact). Unfortunately, the names of the members inducted at this time are not known. There are known members where we really don’t know when they were made who *could* well have been made at this time (Joe Andriacchi is one who comes to mind at the moment, another is Toots Caruso).

Based on the ages of guys made in '83, some of the following may have been part of 1976 ceremony. Some of them may have already been made (Cortina, Angelini, Jimmy LaPietra). but you could have said the same about Infelise and Tocco, re: 1983. Guys like Turk Torello, Joe Lombardo, and John DiFronzo can probably be ruled out due to them already have some type of leadership role by 1976. Spilotro is another guy that was almost certainly made before then based on existing evidence.

Andriacchi (possibly already made)
Angelini (probably already made)
Bastones
Mike Castaldo
Tony Centracchio
Tony Ciriginani (see below)
Cortina (probably already made)
Jimmy Cozzo (probably too early, if Cozzo was ever made at all)
James D'Antonio (possibly never made)
Ron DeAngeles
Louie Eboli
Fecarotta
Joe Grieco
Jimmy LaPietra (possibly already made)
Rocco Lombardo (see below)
Lou Marino
John Monteleone (possibly already made)
Larry Petitt (Magnafichi[?] says not made]
Joe Spa

Buonaguidi (Larry the Hood) was a possible member and Cirignani is the redacted name in the image below. If this happened as the informant suggests, Cirignani could have been made in '76.


I've talked with Tony concerning this and I feel that the individual listed below almost has to be Rocco Lombardo, other than the "formerly in law enforcement." This could have been a mistaken allusion to Rocco's time training law enforcement officers in martial arts. The year is incorrect, but this information isn't always an exact science.

[NorthBuffalo]

Snakes that individual could also be Fred Pacente who did work in Law Enforcement and also as a loan shark. Not sure he was made but doubt he would have told us if he was...