Montreal Mafia status - Post Rizzuto Era

[Medicated]

So, if we believe what Silva says, Montreal is no longer dependent on the Bonanno Crime Family and is able to induct (or inudcted) members by itself.

I might have missed it or have a bad translation but where did it say in the article that they are no longer dependent on the Bonanno family?

I saw the part where they inducted Silva after the Ducarme Joseph murder but who is to say that wasn’t done with permission from NY?

IIRC he's not Italian at all, so it's hard to believe the Bonannos would allow such a thing.

[motorfab]

I rephrase this. As chin say in English "When he flipped in 2022, Silva told investigators that the Rizzutos no longer made 'men of honour' and the war between the Calabrians and Sicilians still wasn't over"

Which means that according to Silva the Rizzutos "made" themselves men of honor. Which implies if we follow Silva's reasoning that Montreal would be an independent Family (therefore no longer under the authority of the Bonannos).

That's the way I understand it in French but it's my own interpretation of what Silva says

For the record I have hard time to believe they're an indepedant Family.

Silva is not Italian? This confirms what I think.

For the rest, it's hell of informations if it is true (crazy the contract on Daniel Renaud's head. Also very stupid)

[OcSleeper]

Whoever is that fourth general gotta be pretty nervous right about now. One general cooperating and two already killed, doesn't look good for number four.

Lots to unpack in this and it's worth noting by the time of this federation officially forming Simva had already been in custody for over a year for multiple murders and attempted murders.

If Tamouro was a general part of this federation, whose alliegence was to the Rizzuto-Sollecito group, it would appear he had jumped ships to the HA at some point since its creation. Past reports at the time of his murder, had him as the right-hand man of Montreal HA Jean-Richard Lariviere and acting as a "street boss" for certain Montreal HA. The lapresse article below also mentioned Tamouro sitting at this table where murder contracts were given.

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2023/ ... au-mexique

Several dozen people attended the funeral of the man who was considered by the police to be close to the hitman Frédérick Silva and who acted as the right-hand man of Montreal Hells Jean-Richard "Race" Larivière.

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/just ... exique.php

Recently, police had considered him a "street boss" for members of the Montreal Hells Angels and suspected him of being involved in the importation of cocaine into Canada from Mexico.

According to our information, Silva and other individuals sat at a table where contracts were given within Montreal organized crime.

According to our information, Tamouro was among those sitting at this table, as was Gregory Woolley, murdered on November 17. Both men were targeted in the major ongoing investigation

Silva also joins a small list of non-Italian men who were allegedly part of this "Rizzuto family." The others being Juan Fernandez and Raynald Desjardins, although I believe Desjardins' texts to Mirarchi in 2011 discredits Fernandez's claims.

Stefano Sollecito was also recorded in 2015 that him and other OC leaders made up a "family."

From Seguin's and Thibault's Inside the Montreal Mafia book

That same year, police overheard Stefano Sollecito saying
that he and several other Quebec organized crime leaders made
up “a family.” Andrew Scoppa was not among them.

[johnny_scootch]

IIRC he's not Italian at all, so it's hard to believe the Bonannos would allow such a thing.

Oh I didn’t realize he wasn’t Italian, yeah I agree then there’s no way on earth NY would approve something like that.

It’s an interesting possible scenario to think about that the Rizzuto’s formerly part of the Cosa Nostra network yet still operating like a Cosa Nostra entity but going by their own rules now.

[CabriniGreen]

So, if we believe what Silva says, Montreal is no longer dependent on the Bonanno Crime Family and is able to induct (or inudcted) members by itself.

I might have missed it or have a bad translation but where did it say in the article that they are no longer dependent on the Bonanno family?

I saw the part where they inducted Silva after the Ducarme Joseph murder but who is to say that wasn’t done with permission from NY?

Why do yall do this?

[Newyorkempire]

So, if we believe what Silva says, Montreal is no longer dependent on the Bonanno Crime Family and is able to induct (or inudcted) members by itself.

I might have missed it or have a bad translation but where did it say in the article that they are no longer dependent on the Bonanno family?

I saw the part where they inducted Silva after the Ducarme Joseph murder but who is to say that wasn’t done with permission from NY?

IIRC he's not Italian at all, so it's hard to believe the Bonannos would allow such a thing.

And you know he's not Italian how?

[chin_gigante]

I'd be curious to see more about exactly what Silva meant when he said he became a member of the Rizzuto family. It's only one sentence in the article so I'm not 100% ready to commit to the stance that it means he was inducted as a member of cosa nostra. Especially considering the article later notes that the Rizzutos no longer make men of honour.

[johnny_scootch]

Why do yall do this?

Because it irks you.

[antimafia]

Journalist Daniel Renaud had a $100,000 contract put on his head by the hitman in 2021.

Confessions de Frédérick Silva

Un « contrat » sur la tête d’un journaliste de La Presse
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/2024 ... presse.php

Contrat sur la tête d’un journaliste: «Ça s’appelle se tirer dans le pied»
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2024/ ... ns-le-pied

La mise à prix de la tête de Daniel Renaud secoue les politiciens québécois
https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/21 ... rick-silva

Notorious Quebec hit man wanted to have La Presse journalist killed for $100K
Daniel Renaud 'shaken' when police told him in 2022 there had been a contract on him
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal ... -1.7397281

Quebec politicians shocked by news of contract put on La Presse reporter's life
A professional killer-turned-police informer told authorities that he had offered a $100,000 bounty on the life of crime reporter Daniel Renaud.
https://montrealgazette.com/news/local- ... rters-life

[CabriniGreen]

Why do yall do this?

Because it irks you.

Lol...nah i didnt see your post...that you didnt know he isnt Italian.....

[Newyorkempire]

Why do yall do this?

Because it irks you.

Lol...nah i didnt see your post...that you didnt know he isnt Italian.....

How is he not Italian??? Lol wtf

[OcSleeper]

IIRC he's Portuguese

[Newyorkempire]

He can be both. It's very easy nowadays.

[johnny_scootch]

IIRC he's Portuguese

We call them Pork Chops in the NYC construction industry, real hard headed mofos but great workers at the same time.

Laborers local 731 is full of them.