Crews that became families

[JeremyTheJew]

What are all the crews that eventually broke off and became there own family???

Valenti/Rochester is one

Utica/Falcone brothers broke off and became the Utica family

There's a few others I think I just can't name them right now .... Any others come to mind anyone??

In a way the Reina family started as a crew with the Masseria/Maranzano days

[johnny_scootch]

In a way the Reina family started as a crew with the Masseria/Maranzano days

I wouldn't say that, what became the Reina/Lucchese family was part of the Corleonesi/Morello family until it split.

I'm drawing a blank as far as crews that became their own family besides a decina of the Santa Ninfa family that became it's own family in Valencia, Venezuela. Also the unsubstantiated claims of the Montreal crew of the Bonanno family breaking off to become the Rizzuto family.

[jmack]

As carmine always said, they’re nothing more than a glorified crew.

[furiofromnaples]

The Rizzuto Family after goerge from Canada murder in 1999.

[furiofromnaples]

Never heard of Utica family,there still active today?

[JeremyTheJew]

Never heard of Utica family,there still active today?

They weren't very active back in the day so I doubt there very active now lol

This thread was created out of reading they some of B thread on Utica tho

I don't know if they were ever really considered a full fledged family or part of the 26 tho

[furiofromnaples]

Never heard of Utica family,there still active today?

They weren't very active back in the day so I doubt there very active now lol

This thread was created out of reading they some of B thread on Utica tho

I don't know if they were ever really considered a full fledged family or part of the 26 tho

I found this:

https://ganglandwire.com/the-utica-new- ... me-family/

From 1970 to 1992, Salvatore and Joseph Falcone led organized crime in Utica, NY. This family went back to the late 1930s. They were a powerful crew of the Buffalo, NY Maggadino Family, also known as The Arm. The New York State troopers arrested both men at the Apalachin Meeting in 1957. This crew was made up of approximately 15-20 “made” members.  the famous witness, Joseph Valachi, claimed they were a separate family but it is more likely they were a powerful autonomous crew under Stefano Magaddino.
In 1972 the older brother Salvatore Falcone died in Miami and in 1974 Buffalo boss Stefano Magaddino died. The younger Falcone brother, Joseph is aging and to outsiders there appeared to be a leadership vacuum. Carmine Persico ordered members of the Colombo Family to move into the area. Tony Falange, a top lieutenant of Falcone begins making moves, showing disrespect to Falcone. For example, he often failed to attend meetings or ask permission to expand the business. Someone robbed Falcone’s safe of $54,000.

By September of 1976 Albert Marrone, a young Turk, was released from prison after using violence to collect on a loan. He immediately began making threats against everyone and expressed his intention to take over Utica’s rackets. Marrone had a history of violence and had been implicated in two murders in the early 1970s.

By October 1076, things got crazy. Albert Marrone and his girlfriend were at dinner with local mob attorney Louis Brindisi and his wife. Brindisi excused himself, after which, Marrone became very nervous. Later that evening, Marrone walked toward his apartment when he was shot. He shielded his girlfriend, but he was killed. There are conflicting reports as to who was responsible. But it is believed that Donato “Danny” Nappi and Jack “Jake” Minicone were two of the shooters. They were working for the Colombo Family. Marrone is known to have threatened Colombo Family representatives. On the other hand, a Falange Lieutenant named Angelo Conte was reported to have wanted Marrone dead. The strongest supposition was that the Colombo family members acted without permission, despite being advised that Marrone’s actions could be dealt with in a sit-down. This unilateral action by the Colombo family—a sign of disrespect—is believed to have sparked further conflict in Utica.

This all sets the scene for a long and protracted bloody mob war for the Utica New York rackets. The Colombos move in and start to extract a street tax on the bookies and they are met with much resistance.

[furiofromnaples]

[motorfab]

I don't believe Utica ever broke away from Buffalo (or North Eastern Pennsylvania, depends who you ask).

There's also no evidence that Montreal ever broke away from the Bonannos.

[JeremyTheJew]

I don't believe Utica ever broke away from Buffalo (or North Eastern Pennsylvania, depends who you ask).

There's also no evidence that Montreal ever broke away from the Bonannos.

Montreal has been gone over n over n some go one way others go the other

I personally think the rizzutos did break off and started there own family... I mean think about it .... The guy that wanted them to stick around flipped and Vito gets locked up

[Etna]

In a way the Reina family started as a crew with the Masseria/Maranzano days

I wouldn't say that, what became the Reina/Lucchese family was part of the Corleonesi/Morello family until it split.

I'm drawing a blank as far as crews that became their own family besides a decina of the Santa Ninfa family that became it's own family in Valencia, Venezuela. Also the unsubstantiated claims of the Montreal crew of the Bonanno family breaking off to become the Rizzuto family.

Thanks for shedding light on the Santa Ninfa group in Venezuela. I always thought it was just the Canadians who were in Venezuela. I can't help but imagine this group isn't active anymore with the economic situation in Venezuela.

[johnny_scootch]

Thanks for shedding light on the Santa Ninfa group in Venezuela. I always thought it was just the Canadians who were in Venezuela. I can't help but imagine this group isn't active anymore with the economic situation in Venezuela.

There was also a family in Caracas, Venezuela. Probably an offshoot of the Siculiana family and part of the Caruana/Cuntrera network, this is where Canadian involvement comes into play. There are a few threads about them if you do a search. Some real good stuff from guys like B and Felice.

[Antiliar]

The Chicago mob began as a crew under Joe Masseria in 1928. Al Capone was kicking up $50K to Joe Masseria. Tony Lombardo, the Chicago Mafia boss, told Capone that since he wasn't a made member he should stop paying Masseria. Capone stopped making payments and Masseria whistled him in to New York. Instead of chastising Capone, Masseria made him a captain with the power to make ten men into his decina. He added that if he eliminates Lombardo and Joe Aiello he would recognize him as the boss of Chicago. Lombardo and Aiello were killed in 1928 and 1930, respectively, but Capone wasn't recognized until after Masseria was killed, when Salvatore Maranzano did so at a national meeting around April 1931.

[furiofromnaples]

I don't believe Utica ever broke away from Buffalo (or North Eastern Pennsylvania, depends who you ask).

There's also no evidence that Montreal ever broke away from the Bonannos.

Apart the fact that from 1999 they doesnt take order by Bonannos and that when Sal Montagna was deported back to Canada and try to take control of the former decina,he was whacked.

For the Utica crew even I doubt that splitted by Buffalo maybe had a big grade of independence but nothing more. The Magaddinos just lost Rochester wont let an another crew to became independent.

[chin_gigante]

I don't believe Utica ever broke away from Buffalo (or North Eastern Pennsylvania, depends who you ask).

There's also no evidence that Montreal ever broke away from the Bonannos.

Apart the fact that from 1999 they doesnt take order by Bonannos and that when Sal Montagna was deported back to Canada and try to take control of the former decina,he was whacked.

Montreal continued to kick up money to the Bonanno administration until at least the mid-2000s. There were also members of the decina who sided with Montagna when he was up there like Di Maulo and Gallo. Montagna wasn't even killed by the Rizzutos, his murder was ordered by Desjardins.