52'topics catch episode 1 Vito guzzo

[Cheech]

Anything in the future on Ragusa? I would enjoy that. Thanks

[Ridgewood 79]

Cheech he's a popular one actually we were really really close at one time and yes but not yet our next mob episode is gonna be on the 3 captains and who is the old man in the closet ( not the gay closet either) but yeah too early for the Paul episode

[axx]

Watched the 1st episode and enjoyed it. Keep it up!

[Ridgewood 79]

Tku axx

[Pmac2]

prettycool listend while on way to work in morning. your on to something. it's good the host guides frank along with dates. it keeps shit in order. no jumping around. I mean guzzo had a small window what 91 to 97. killing guy to Robb them for weed or there money was stupid and evil. still kids in your early 20tys. there no way this guy goes straight. Will the Colombo bosses in a few years even recognize he was inducted in prison by a guy deleo who is from boston there's been allegations he was a witness in a murder for hire trial but the guy got off and deleo was the shooter. but even in jail deleo a soldier what gives him the rite to induct a guy that's crazy. all guys would be doing it. does teddy persico give him a spot seeing the guy really wants it...

[Ridgewood 79]

Good point pmac on the persico side of things I recall telling Allie briefly that I was friends with Vito and that I felt he was a good dude Allie responded why because he's crazy and that was the last time I ever brought up Vito next to Allie

[Cheech]

I like that its more than mafia. I like these are nyc neighborhood stories and where these stories take place are just as important. Besides Scars show this is my favorite. Keep going, frank

“Say hello to mister Joe” cracks me up…

[Ridgewood 79]

Tku Cheech yes my uncle Cheech s favorite go to whenever anyone of his friends were around say hello to Mr whoever!! Speaking of my uncle Cheech I will touch on him briefly on episode 3 " the three captains hit" as well as Santo Giordano aka tony , doctor salerno and yep the old man in the closet!!

[moneyman]

What was interesting to me is when Frank mentions how young Guzzo was.. dad dies young and grows up around old timers/heavy hitters... had to make a name for himself quick and at an early age.. I never put that together.. Guzzo seems like typical Colombo guy, doesn’t give a F and willing to throw down

[Ridgewood 79]

Moneyman yes Vito was a fast student of that life join us on Sunday 7:15 Eastern on 52 topics as we discuss Vito again on our live and don't miss some stories I forget to mention as well as we discuss episode 2 1986 and there's gonna be a lot more coming up like tony and Anthony aiello ,y uncle Cheech, the Giannini crew, the Grimaldi s, 1972, and 1977 etc etc

[Proletarian187]

A couple if questions for Frank if you feel okey answering them.

What do you make of Guzzo Jrs status as a made guy? Obviously we know about the alleged way he was made in prison by De Leo, who's a weird case in itself..

Supposedly Vito took offence to being excused and forced to leave when other made guys were talking cosa nostra business. The narrative is he insisted on being made and De Leo made it happen. Weird circumstances and very unusual case all around..

Do you believe it happened that way, and do you think Guzzo Jr is officially recognized by all the other families and members?

And do you think he regrets it or is he gonna hit the streets running and advance in a family who definitely seems to need new blood of his caliber?

[gohnjotti]

A couple if questions for Frank if you feel okey answering them.

What do you make of Guzzo Jrs status as a made guy? Obviously we know about the alleged way he was made in prison by De Leo, who's a weird case in itself..

Supposedly Vito took offence to being excused and forced to leave when other made guys were talking cosa nostra business. The narrative is he insisted on being made and De Leo made it happen. Weird circumstances and very unusual case all around..

Do you believe it happened that way, and do you think Guzzo Jr is officially recognized by all the other families and members?

And do you think he regrets it or is he gonna hit the streets running and advance in a family who definitely seems to need new blood of his caliber?

Why would he regret it?

[Proletarian187]

A couple if questions for Frank if you feel okey answering them.

What do you make of Guzzo Jrs status as a made guy? Obviously we know about the alleged way he was made in prison by De Leo, who's a weird case in itself..

Supposedly Vito took offence to being excused and forced to leave when other made guys were talking cosa nostra business. The narrative is he insisted on being made and De Leo made it happen. Weird circumstances and very unusual case all around..

Do you believe it happened that way, and do you think Guzzo Jr is officially recognized by all the other families and members?

And do you think he regrets it or is he gonna hit the streets running and advance in a family who definitely seems to need new blood of his caliber?

Why would he regret it?

Not saying he does, he doesn't seem like the type.

That said, he's getting older, the life changed, he served a lot of time etc.. People change.. He might have been out already if he hadn't pursued membership in prison. He was made in a very underwhelming manner (allegedly) and there might be an asterisk on his status.

[cobra]

Tku Cheech yes my uncle Cheech s favorite go to whenever anyone of his friends were around say hello to Mr whoever!! Speaking of my uncle Cheech I will touch on him briefly on episode 3 " the three captains hit" as well as Santo Giordano aka tony , doctor salerno and yep the old man in the closet!!

- you mention briefly about the ligammari case
- when it happen, was the topic discussed among the mafia and what was the feeling about it?

[gohnjotti]

A couple if questions for Frank if you feel okey answering them.

What do you make of Guzzo Jrs status as a made guy? Obviously we know about the alleged way he was made in prison by De Leo, who's a weird case in itself..

Supposedly Vito took offence to being excused and forced to leave when other made guys were talking cosa nostra business. The narrative is he insisted on being made and De Leo made it happen. Weird circumstances and very unusual case all around..

Do you believe it happened that way, and do you think Guzzo Jr is officially recognized by all the other families and members?

And do you think he regrets it or is he gonna hit the streets running and advance in a family who definitely seems to need new blood of his caliber?

Why would he regret it?

Not saying he does, he doesn't seem like the type.

That said, he's getting older, the life changed, he served a lot of time etc.. People change.. He might have been out already if he hadn't pursued membership in prison. He was made in a very underwhelming manner (allegedly) and there might be an asterisk on his status.

That's true. Leaving prison in your sixties, nothing else to show for it, I'm sure he'll be grateful with whatever accolades he can get even if he isn't pursuing a life of crime into his retirement.