General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

[Ivan]

I highly doubt if he wil be trading on his status as a mobster (or mob-adjacent, or whatever he is now) in a podcast, the thing will probably entirely revolve around his minor celebrity persona as a wacky restaurateur. I don't think he will be on it attacking "rats" or whatever. It will probably be entirely separate from his Outfit associations. In fact I'd be shocked if it's anything like Merlino's podcast.

[funkster]

I don’t know he doesn’t bother me, don’t know why he pisses people off so much. He’s just a doof doing a good job promoting his restaurant.

I was OK with him up until the rape charges were posted here - now he's just another scumbag trying to influence people. Will be interesting to see how this plays in Chicago - I don't think the mob is a big thing and there aren't Joey Merlino-type mob celebs walking around there anymore.

I mean I don’t think there are Merlino mob celebs pretty much anywhere these days. He’s basically the only one.

[funkster]

I don’t know he doesn’t bother me, don’t know why he pisses people off so much. He’s just a doof doing a good job promoting his restaurant.

He doesn’t bother me either I thinks he’s actually pretty funny and entertaining. He has a great Joe Pesci voice.

Let’s be real, is it any different from the thousands of NY Italians leaning into the AYYYYYE IM ITALIAN whadda ya from me??? People ham that shit up all the time.

[Coloboy]

Question for those of you with experience in combing through FBI files.....

During family secrets some videos were released, some of which can still be found, of Jimmy Marcello speaking with his brother in jail, talking about among many things, the legalization of gambling in Illinois, as well as his take on what was happening on the street with Sarno at the time (2000 or 2001). There were also recordings of Calabrese Sr. in jail with Twan Doyle and Frank Jr.

One has to imagine the FBI has dozens of hours of similar recordings. At what point, if ever, does something like that become publicly available? It would be fascinating to listen to more of the Marcello recordings in particular. This was an interesting time where he may or may not have been running the outfit from jail, or at least preparing to.

[Snakes]

Question for those of you with experience in combing through FBI files.....

During family secrets some videos were released, some of which can still be found, of Jimmy Marcello speaking with his brother in jail, talking about among many things, the legalization of gambling in Illinois, as well as his take on what was happening on the street with Sarno at the time (2000 or 2001). There were also recordings of Calabrese Sr. in jail with Twan Doyle and Frank Jr.

One has to imagine the FBI has dozens of hours of similar recordings. At what point, if ever, does something like that become publicly available? It would be fascinating to listen to more of the Marcello recordings in particular. This was an interesting time where he may or may not have been running the outfit from jail, or at least preparing to.

You would have to request them. They are technically part of a file, but they normally don't release the actual recordings themselves. They may have transcripts as part of a sub-file of the "parent" (master) file, but I think you have to specifically request them. Who knows if they'd actually release them or find them.

[NorthBuffalo]

Question for those of you with experience in combing through FBI files.....

During family secrets some videos were released, some of which can still be found, of Jimmy Marcello speaking with his brother in jail, talking about among many things, the legalization of gambling in Illinois, as well as his take on what was happening on the street with Sarno at the time (2000 or 2001). There were also recordings of Calabrese Sr. in jail with Twan Doyle and Frank Jr.

One has to imagine the FBI has dozens of hours of similar recordings. At what point, if ever, does something like that become publicly available? It would be fascinating to listen to more of the Marcello recordings in particular. This was an interesting time where he may or may not have been running the outfit from jail, or at least preparing to.

The original Family Secrets recordings along with all court exhibits were all released - every transcript, photo, etc. However, they disappeared from the web unfortunately - I think its largely a matter of their website not archiving previously released materials. This outlet used to archive them but no longer - https://www.thechicagosyndicate.com/?m=0

This was the old link from FBI website: https://www.justice.gov/usao/iln/hot/familySecrets.html

[Ivan]

This was the old link from FBI website: https://www.justice.gov/usao/iln/hot/familySecrets.html

It's on the Wayback Machine / Internet Archive.

https://web.archive.org/web/20080611074 ... html#Aug08

Nothing hides from me. If it's on the internet, I am going to find it.

Click on the little PDF symbols under the "Links" column on the right to bring up the exhibits. Happy reading, fellas.

[Snakes]

This was the old link from FBI website: https://www.justice.gov/usao/iln/hot/familySecrets.html

It's on the Wayback Machine / Internet Archive.

https://web.archive.org/web/20080611074 ... html#Aug08

Nothing hides from me. If it's on the internet, I am going to find it.

Click on the little PDF symbols under the "Links" column on the right to bring up the exhibits. Happy reading, fellas.

I think he's seen those and was asking about the ones that weren't on there (they most assuredly had more than what the DOJ posted).

[Ivan]

This was the old link from FBI website: https://www.justice.gov/usao/iln/hot/familySecrets.html

It's on the Wayback Machine / Internet Archive.

https://web.archive.org/web/20080611074 ... html#Aug08

Nothing hides from me. If it's on the internet, I am going to find it.

Click on the little PDF symbols under the "Links" column on the right to bring up the exhibits. Happy reading, fellas.

I think he's seen those and was asking about the ones that weren't on there (they most assuredly had more than what the DOJ posted).

Oh OK my bad, thought he meant the dead justice.gov link he posted.

[Snakes]

This was the old link from FBI website: https://www.justice.gov/usao/iln/hot/familySecrets.html

It's on the Wayback Machine / Internet Archive.

https://web.archive.org/web/20080611074 ... html#Aug08

Nothing hides from me. If it's on the internet, I am going to find it.

Click on the little PDF symbols under the "Links" column on the right to bring up the exhibits. Happy reading, fellas.

I think he's seen those and was asking about the ones that weren't on there (they most assuredly had more than what the DOJ posted).

Oh OK my bad, thought he meant the dead justice.gov link he posted.

Sorry, I was referring to Coloboy lol

[Ivan]

Sorry, I was referring to Coloboy lol

Ah OK.

Anyway, for those that haven't seen it, there's lots of neat stuff on that Internet Archive link of exhibits. If you guys don't have them you might wanna download them as I've seen stuff randomly disappear from the Wayback Machine before.

[Tonyd621]

This was the old link from FBI website: https://www.justice.gov/usao/iln/hot/familySecrets.html

It's on the Wayback Machine / Internet Archive.

https://web.archive.org/web/20080611074 ... html#Aug08

Nothing hides from me. If it's on the internet, I am going to find it.

Click on the little PDF symbols under the "Links" column on the right to bring up the exhibits. Happy reading, fellas.

Wow, thank man. This is awesome. I'm going to spend way too much time looking at it all.

[Patrickgold]

This was the old link from FBI website: https://www.justice.gov/usao/iln/hot/familySecrets.html

It's on the Wayback Machine / Internet Archive.

https://web.archive.org/web/20080611074 ... html#Aug08

Nothing hides from me. If it's on the internet, I am going to find it.

Click on the little PDF symbols under the "Links" column on the right to bring up the exhibits. Happy reading, fellas.

Excellent website!! Thanks for link. I see they have surveillance photos from the Russian American Club on Mannheim. Does anyone have any knowledge if there are any transcripts of any of the outfit guys talking about it? Curious which Russian group was running that place. I remember it got busted for prostitution. It was the cherry club before it became Russian American club. They said it was a members only club but they let anyone in there.

[Snakes]

This was the old link from FBI website: https://www.justice.gov/usao/iln/hot/familySecrets.html

It's on the Wayback Machine / Internet Archive.

https://web.archive.org/web/20080611074 ... html#Aug08

Nothing hides from me. If it's on the internet, I am going to find it.

Click on the little PDF symbols under the "Links" column on the right to bring up the exhibits. Happy reading, fellas.

Excellent website!! Thanks for link. I see they have surveillance photos from the Russian American Club on Mannheim. Does anyone have any knowledge if there are any transcripts of any of the outfit guys talking about it? Curious which Russian group was running that place. I remember it got busted for prostitution. It was the cherry club before it became Russian American club. They said it was a members only club but they let anyone in there.

I think they had some of the Marcellos machines in it, but I'll have to go back and check some files to see if anything more specific was mentioned about it.

[Ivan]

Excellent website!! Thanks for link.

Glad you guys like it.

I figured it would be on the Wayback Machine because it's a federal government site and therefore the opposite of obscure (generally the less obscure something is the more likely it gets stashed on the Wayback Machine, but it's usually a good idea to check it for any site that gets nuked but you want to see as I've found some super obscure sites from like 15~20 years ago on it too).

Edit to add that I'm surprised the PDF exhibits got archived as that sort of media usually doesn't (at least from what I've seen). Usually shows up as dead links within the Wayback Machine. Might want to download the really good stuff just to be safe.