OC Shortz and DiLeonardo

[TallGuy19]

Always makes me laugh how most people are never in the position these guys are in but yet pass judgement as if they were in the mafia. No. Most likely you’re a guy who enjoys reading about it. The genre is starting to get clogged with stuff by complete frauds like Danny Trio (who posts on here) and that Raimondi guy.

Is Raimondi still doing interviews? I haven't seen anything with him or Gianni Russo in awhile. That Gunner asshole got exposed as a fraud and dropped off the face of the earth too.

[John W]

I agree the way I saw it oc did a video on Michael wearing a wire and that conversation. They’re taking it personal cause of shortz is in bed with Sammy. I personally didn’t even know Michael did this so it was news to me and I’ve seen hours and hours of his content from Trevor McDonald and on

Yeah RJ seems pissed, I think he's unhappy because most people just assumed that Mikey Scars got indicted and then testified when in fact Mikey Scars wore a wire on his own people which I don't think has been mentioned and is a scumbag thing to do which puts Scars in an even more of a bad light with all this 'no excuses' nonsense plus they don't like that OC Shortz is working with Gravano.

At the end of the day both RJ and OC Shortz are scumbags for working with rats, it says everything you need to know about both of their characters.

Hey guy,
These rats provide insights and information that otherwise wouldn’t be known. It would very hard to do any mafia research without rats like valachi.

I have no problem with rats putting out videos, I watch a lot of them but lets not pretend they are Rhodes scholars, they are scumbags that when the time came they didn't stand up and melted like ice and are now making videos for their own self interest and scumbags like RJ and OG Shortz (and others) are latching on to them for their own self interest, they are all using each other.

I haven't been called a "scumbag" before, so that is a first for me. Thank you.

Anyone who would work with a known serial killer rat is a scumbag, you should be worried considering what he did to people he worked with in the past.

[JeremyTheJew]

For anyone to pass judgement on a JOURNALIST for working with “rats” is just retarded

Most of you haven’t done a day in jail (iv done 3 years n various small months) so have no opnion or voice in the matter to begin with.

But to call ppl scum bags for being able to bring features on otherwise forgotten about material - to me that’s the real scum bag - a pussy behind a computer just talking shit

I appreciate both OC and RJ and Scott and EVERYONE else that gives me ANYTHING on OC to discuss


Believe it or not - 10/15 years ago these boards were kinda boring bc we didn’t have real info

We still were thinking Stevie crea was Mr nice guy
Nicky corrozzo was boss over Peter
And countless arguements over NYC VS CHICAGO

Oh and NYC vs Rizzutos who were the gods back then

Point is - we had countless WRONG arguements for YEARS bc we had no “rats” discussing shit like this. I appreciate the content

[SonnyBlackstein]

For anyone to pass judgement on a JOURNALIST for working with “rats” is just retarded

This.

[stubbs]

I forgot the Scars wore a wire; he even tried to ensnare a lawyer. He was looking at max 15 but more likely 10-12 and still rolled. Frankly, he is soft. If he were in the same position again, he'd roll.

I believe Scars was indicted on the Frank Weiss murder. After Vinny Ocean Palermo flipped, he gave up everyone invovled in that hit, and Scars found out Palermo was set to testify against him … he knew he was fucked.

I found this article that mentions the indictment, but curious if anyone has a link to the original indictment from the DOJ: https://nypost.com/2002/06/21/feds-bust ... ff-89-hit/

[stubbs]

Didn't Scars say he flipped after he was put on the shelf? How was he still meeting members and recording them while on the shelf, what am I missing

I think after he got arrested, the bosses told his crew to stop kicking up to him. And he got pissed off and sent them threatening messages from prison. Maybe they shelved him then?

He described it as “I threatened them” if I remember correctly in that Trevor interview.

[John W]

For anyone to pass judgement on a JOURNALIST for working with “rats” is just retarded

Most of you haven’t done a day in jail (iv done 3 years n various small months) so have no opnion or voice in the matter to begin with.

But to call ppl scum bags for being able to bring features on otherwise forgotten about material - to me that’s the real scum bag - a pussy behind a computer just talking shit

I appreciate both OC and RJ and Scott and EVERYONE else that gives me ANYTHING on OC to discuss


Believe it or not - 10/15 years ago these boards were kinda boring bc we didn’t have real info

We still were thinking Stevie crea was Mr nice guy
Nicky corrozzo was boss over Peter
And countless arguements over NYC VS CHICAGO

Oh and NYC vs Rizzutos who were the gods back then

Point is - we had countless WRONG arguements for YEARS bc we had no “rats” discussing shit like this. I appreciate the content

RJ and OC Shortz (also Fat Frodo Nadu who has a video about the whole situation coming up) are certainly not JOURNALISTS, they are just YouTube content creators just in it for clicks and likes, nothing more.

I watch a lot of the content but would never condone a content creator working with a rat regardless of what the rat can share and would lose no sleep if they all had their channels which is just self serving nonsense shut down tomorrow, they became rats because they didn’t want to go to jail, it’s as simple as that and the fact these YouTubers enable them tells you all you need to know about what kind of people they are.

Mikey Scars has said Gravano is trying to rewrite mob history and using OC Shortz to do it so don’t believe everything you watch just because it gives you something OC related to discuss that you’re so desperate for.

[Raven]

Speaking of OC shorts is he on here? A few months back Anthony Ruggiano said you interviewed him about Tommy Rava crew and its history and that it would be on your channel. Can’t find it. Is it on patreon?

[SonnyBlackstein]

I watch a lot of the content...

Then stfu.

[John W]

I watch a lot of the content...

Then stfu.

So you’re one of those

[funkster]

I am a No Excuses subscriber but do not watch OC Shortz, what did his video say, that Michael's testimony helped put Cali away? This is why i limit what content makers i follow, these mob youtube fights are such a waste of time.

[Pmac2]

Didn't Scars say he flipped after he was put on the shelf? How was he still meeting members and recording them while on the shelf, what am I missing

this is a great point . someone should hold his feet to the flame on this point alone. if you where put on the shelf how were you still able to communicate with other members and capo's. with out then getting in trouble for speaking to you....

[funkster]

Didn't Scars say he flipped after he was put on the shelf? How was he still meeting members and recording them while on the shelf, what am I missing

this is a great point . someone should hold his feet to the flame on this point alone. if you where put on the shelf how were you still able to communicate with other members and capo's. with out then getting in trouble for speaking to you....

I would imagine his answer would be that yes he was technically shelved, but that he still talked to people he was close with in the life and they were meeting him anyway.

[johnny_scootch]

Speaking of OC shorts is he on here?

He posted earlier in this exact thread, c’mon guy try to keep up.

I would imagine his answer would be that yes he was technically shelved, but that he still talked to people he was close with in the life and they were meeting him anyway.

The powers that be just stripped him of all his earning potential and fucked him over, he wasn’t shelved.

[TommyGambino]

Don't see anything wrong with that OC Shortz video. RJ claiming it was an attack job lol guy has always been a clown.