ILA strike

[CornerBoy]

these fucking unions.... they are unbelievable. they are the mobsters.

[ShotgunTheRifle]

Would him taking a plea have helped Daggett in anyway?

Was a long time ago and my memory's hazy but I seem to think they had a policy at the time, just plea out in all cases? The story goes that they told him to take a plea on the case and he didn't so they trunk music'd him.

No problem. It's amazing the stuff you guys remember off hand. I have to re-read over and over for stuff to sink in. I was just re-reading the Caprio testimony that Chin posted. Larry Ricci was Beeps Centorino's cousin and Pete the crumbs genovese contact. So the philly angle does old some weight.

[chin_gigante]

Would be worthwhile one day getting Caprio's testimony in the 2001 or 2004 trials to see if he expands more on the attempted takeover. Not sure if he's alive still or not. He'd be about 95 if he is. They don't always release details when guys die in witsec.

[Ivan]

They don't always release details when guys die in witsec.

Yeah e.g. apparently Tommy Del croaked a while back and it was never publicized in any way. Schratweiser/Anastasia eventually found out about it somehow, but that's it.

[aray22]

Remember this was only a few years removed from the Genovese-Gambino backed plot to kill Ligambi, Mazzone and Borgesi.

This is the first I've heard of this, what's the story?

[Dave65827]

Not to be all speculative and mob fanboyish but do you think the genovese may have played some role in the strike considering Daggetts past? This and the waterfront commission ending have been quite some victories (assuming they had a role)

[ShotgunTheRifle]

Remember this was only a few years removed from the Genovese-Gambino backed plot to kill Ligambi, Mazzone and Borgesi.

This is the first I've heard of this, what's the story?

This comes from Chins recap of the Caprio testimony, its on Page 4 of the Testimony thread in the FBI files. Chin, I appreciate the recap you did, I often go back to that to look for information. And Also thanks to everyone else who does recaps. I know B has done a few very good ones as well. Its pain steaking to read through some of those FBI documents, so again thanks.

The plot to kill Ligambi:

- When Merlino was jailed, Ligambi became acting boss
- Mazzone became underboss and Borgesi the consigliere
- Caprio went down and Mazzone introduced the new administration
- Ligambi wanted to know what Caprio was doing
- Ligambi wanted Caprio to set up a meet with the Genovese and Gambino families
- From 1999 to 2000, Caprio met with Ligambi and Borgesi about once a month to discuss business
- Caprio was very angry when Natale flipped
- The Genovese family felt very bad about it too
- Natale sent a message to Caprio through D’Ambrosia
- Natale told Caprio he loved him, and he should cooperate too
- In January 2000, D’Ambrosia and Vito Alberti wanted to go into business with slot machines in Philadelphia, NJ, and NY
- The Genovese family gave the green light
- Philadelphia wanted an end from D’Ambrosia
- The Genovese family refused to recognise the new administration and did not want to give them a cut
- The Gambino and Lucchese families were also refusing to recognise the administration
- Caprio warned the Genovese family that Philadelphia would kill D’Ambrosia if they did not get a cut
- It was decided to kill the administration
- Caprio’s relationship with Ligambi, Mazzone, and Borgesi was good, but they had to die because they were a potential threat to Alberti and D’Ambrosia
- It was decided to bury the administration to avoid heat
- Caprio sent Vincent Centorino and Raymond LePore to look for a spot to bury the bodies
- Caprio talked to Casale on tape that they would have to kill Ligambi, Mazzone, and Borgesi pretty quickly because he was afraid he would be arrested
- The murders would be set up as a fake meeting with the Genovese and Gambino families
- Alberti and Anthony Proto would be involved as representatives of the Genovese and Gambino families
- Caprio and D’Ambrosia would be the shooters
- The murder was going to take place at a construction site or warehouse

[Pogo The Clown]

To add to that Caprio also testified that after the murders he was to be installed as Boss, D’Ambrosia would be inducted as a member and immediately promoted to UnberBoss and Marty Angelina would be made the Consigliere (I’m assuming to placate the remaining Merlino people). He also said the headquarters of the family would be moved from Philly to Newark (where he operated out of)


Pogo

[Brovelli]

Not to be all speculative and mob fanboyish but do you think the genovese may have played some role in the strike considering Daggetts past? This and the waterfront commission ending have been quite some victories (assuming they had a role)

Without any real knowledge, I think he must definitely be an associate and the mob is cashing in some way. Do they have any real involvement in the strike, almost certainly not when it was on this level of stage but my opinion is there is someone if not multiple made guys close to Daggett based on the mob having ongoing influence on the waterfront.

I'm hoping Capeci does some reporting on it as I think he's the one that will have some info if any exists!

[Wiseguy]

Not to be all speculative and mob fanboyish but do you think the genovese may have played some role in the strike considering Daggetts past? This and the waterfront commission ending have been quite some victories (assuming they had a role)

Without any real knowledge, I think he must definitely be an associate and the mob is cashing in some way. Do they have any real involvement in the strike, almost certainly not when it was on this level of stage but my opinion is there is someone if not multiple made guys close to Daggett based on the mob having ongoing influence on the waterfront.

I'm hoping Capeci does some reporting on it as I think he's the one that will have some info if any exists!

While Dagget's status as a mob associate is well established, I'm not sure what the strike brings the mob other than attention to the ILA contract, wages, hiring practices, etc. which is pretty much how the mob makes money on the waterfront today.

[Ivan]

Imagine the insane heat from the feds, not to mention the sensationalist media frenzy, if an American mafia family's entire administration did the Houdini in the 21st century -- especially if it was mobsters associated with media favorite Joey Merlino.

[Brovelli]

Not to be all speculative and mob fanboyish but do you think the genovese may have played some role in the strike considering Daggetts past? This and the waterfront commission ending have been quite some victories (assuming they had a role)

Without any real knowledge, I think he must definitely be an associate and the mob is cashing in some way. Do they have any real involvement in the strike, almost certainly not when it was on this level of stage but my opinion is there is someone if not multiple made guys close to Daggett based on the mob having ongoing influence on the waterfront.

I'm hoping Capeci does some reporting on it as I think he's the one that will have some info if any exists!

While Dagget's status as a mob associate is well established, I'm not sure what the strike brings the mob other than attention to the ILA contract, wages, hiring practices, etc. which is pretty much how the mob makes money on the waterfront today.

I agree though I’m sure there will be some nice bonuses going round for negotiating the pay rise