I'm not trying to supress anything and it would be impossible for me to do so. But it does seem you are creating a scenario where, if I can't explain the strategy of the prosecution in bringing these things up, that must mean there's at least plausible evidence to suggest there is still an an active mob family in Buffalo. I can't pretend to know what is going on in the heads of the prosecutors and don't accept the premise of your argument.NickleCity wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2024 12:55 pmThis is a deflection. The feds brought it up. This is not a could be. I didn’t look for it to support my narrative. I follow the case. My question to you is the same. Why would the Feds introduce this evidence into the record if they aren’t concerned with the mafia/OMC and the violence toward prosecutors, judges, and witnesses? That is a reasonable question to ask. IMHO it is unreasonable not to ask it, which is what it appears you do. You are only interested in the information that supports your views and jettison and ignore everything else.
The difference between me and you is it appears to me that you actively try to suppress evidence contrary to your opinions by belittling and mocking while I encourage everyone present what they think is important for people to know. The more info the better… I trust people to develop their own opinions it appears to me that you fear people coming to a different opinion than you hold and don’t trust people with information.
This is so dishonest and misleading. You talk as if these are not all interconnected coming out of the same investigations. These aren't separate cases over an extended period of time demonstrating continuing racketeering activity overseen by an LCN family. Nice try though.NickleCity wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2024 4:55 amHow many years have you been saying this?
You said this after the Violi busts…
Then Masecchia was charged… and you said it again…
Then Bongo was charged and you said it again…
Then Gerace was charged and you said it again… and etc …
Can you admit you were wrong each time you suggested nothing else would come up about the Buffalo mob in the news and then it did?
If not, how many more times will you do this?
When have I ever deflected anything? While I'm usually willing to engage in debate, to a fault, even I have my limits. And on the subject of Buffalo, the outcome was determined a long time ago by far more people than just me who are in a position to know.NickleCity wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2024 1:05 pm
Deflection… you know that your answers will show the world you allow your presupposition to rule your thought process and will never change your mind no matter what.
Pot calling the kettle black. You are the one that starts with a desired outcome and works backward. This just shows you will not deviate from your presuppositions or you would answer the questions.
A major contributor to this controversy is not just misunderstanding Buffalo but ignorance of the LCN overall in the 21st century. A family in the U.S. isn't going to resurrect itself. Two-thirds of a 30+ member family aren't going to fly under the radar of law enforcement. Time and again it has been shown to you and others how what we've seen in Buffalo in recent years is not unlike what we've seen in other cities with a defunct family. This isn't just about "evidence" but being able to read that evidence in its proper context. I come to the conclusion I do, not because I want a certain outcome, but because we've seen the same general trends and outcomes in LCN families across the nation over the past 40 years. And you can't look at Buffalo apart from or in isolation from that.
Now, if you want to take the academic position some here have (and it's one of the stronger ones because it changes the debate) that a family exists down to literally the last member, even if he's inactive and never committed a crime in his life, because he's recognized as part of this traditional network; that's one thing. But that doesn't seem to be what you and others are saying.