General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

[Newyorkempire]

It's actually "amigo", given that it's Portuguese.

Who speaks Portuguese?? Wtf

[PolackTony]

It's actually "amigo", given that it's Portuguese.

Who speaks Portuguese?? Wtf

It’s a reference to Fish Cafaro who for some reason believed that the phrase “amico nostro” was of Portuguese derivation.

[Newyorkempire]

It's actually "amigo", given that it's Portuguese.

Who speaks Portuguese?? Wtf

It’s a reference to Fish Cafaro who for some reason believed that the phrase “amico nostro” was of Portuguese derivation.

That's embarrassing

[Antiliar]

I highly doubt any of the 'only a made guy can introduce another made guy' stuff ever existed there.

From Nicky Calabrese’s testimony:

It's amico not amigo so this testimony transcript is totally worthless

That's not how it works. A one letter mistake doesn't cancel out an entire document. Throwing out the baby with the bathwater is an overreaction and it's not how research is done. Almost every court transcript has mistakes, whether it's a typo from the court reporter by hitting the wrong key or not knowing how to spell a word, or a witness not pronouncing a word correctly. You have to accept that reality and work around it by being familiar with the subject and carefully reading the context.

[Newyorkempire]

I highly doubt any of the 'only a made guy can introduce another made guy' stuff ever existed there.

From Nicky Calabrese’s testimony:

It's amico not amigo so this testimony transcript is totally worthless

That's not how it works. A one letter mistake doesn't cancel out an entire document. Throwing out the baby with the bathwater is an overreaction and it's not how research is done. Almost every court transcript has mistakes, whether it's a typo from the court reporter by hitting the wrong key or not knowing how to spell a word, or a witness not pronouncing a word correctly. You have to accept that reality and work around it by being familiar with the subject and carefully reading the context.

So was the transfer by an agent the issue though? I'm not believing that Nick Calabrese thought it was Portuguese

[Coloboy]

Excellent post, Coloboy.

The only major addition/amendment is that Chicago is confirmed to have had a formal consiglio (council), a body found in the Sicilian mafia and most early US Families that included the administration, select captains, and even elder soldiers or former leaders who no longer held official rank in the hierarchy. This body voted on matters of life and death, policy, and other issues relevant to the organization's inner-workings and had an elected chairman or secretary who presided over the consiglio's activities. This wasn't a part of the top-down hierarchy that issued direct orders or involved itself in the standard of chain of command but the hierarchy was nonetheless reflected in the consiglio even though it didn't define it.

People have long been aware of Chicago's "board of directors" or a "panel" but this was confirmed by Frank Bompensiero via Phil Alderisio to be a formal consiglio, the very same body reported by sources in other Families and overseas. Those who sat on the consiglio were thus consiglieri and the chairman/secretary was akin to what we'd call official consigliere in other Families who utilized only one.

A big issue with Chicago exceptionalism and the insistence that Chicago was "different" is that those making these claims very rarely if ever have the comparative framework or broader knowledge of the mafia phenomenon as a whole to make that judgment and are often interpreting/misinterpreting info that is vague to begin with. I say that not as a slight, as it's an overwhelming amount of info to consume, but it takes on a different dimension when someone dismisses actual evidence or tries to force a narrative. Unfortunately those narratives are particularly popular with Chicago.

Thanks, B. Good reminder about the Consiglio or BOD.


I’ve always felt that that is exactly what the famous “last supper” photo shows. The Board of Directors getting together for a meeting.

[Coloboy]

I know most of you have read this 1972 FBI memo, but I find it interesting for one primary reason.

https://www.archives.gov/files/research ... 292973.pdf

Accardo explicitly states that “he will remain top leader of organized crime, and Ricca will not be replaced”

This certainly lends credence to the fact that whatever positions Accardo and Ricca held prior to Aiuppa truly stepping up, were “official” positions. Meaning they were officially recognized as the top authorities in the hierarchy. It certainly seems that prior to his death, Ricca was truly sharing power with Accardo as is often discussed . It seems likely that this was the case for the entire period post Giancana and up until Aiuppa.

I suppose the question remains as to whether Accardos position remained “official “after Aiuppa stepped up.