Mancuso released

[SonnyBlackstein]

My only guess is the feds fucking with the family. Every wiseguy in the city would be asking the same question.

Cast suspicion, tickle the wires. Can't think of anything else.

My guess is they are already building a case against him

Possibly, but for what? He's barely out, what could he have done?

They can build a case for years. They want a boss on more than just a probation violation.

But then why nab Mancuso?

Get him off the street for a year or two while they build something bigger. I'm certain that every single LCN boss has a pending case against them, but whether or not it comes to an indictment before they die is up in the air.

Well said. The Feds won’t drop the case until they feel that it’s strong enough. Out of all the bosses, Mancuso seems to be the most hands on, so I think the indictment will come sooner rather than later.

Yeah brilliant. Barney and Dom have been boss for 15 years.
Feds take their time building those cases eh.

Or theyre shit out of luck.

Gee I wonder which one.

[Snakes]

My only guess is the feds fucking with the family. Every wiseguy in the city would be asking the same question.

Cast suspicion, tickle the wires. Can't think of anything else.

My guess is they are already building a case against him

Possibly, but for what? He's barely out, what could he have done?

They can build a case for years. They want a boss on more than just a probation violation.

But then why nab Mancuso?

Get him off the street for a year or two while they build something bigger. I'm certain that every single LCN boss has a pending case against them, but whether or not it comes to an indictment before they die is up in the air.

Well said. The Feds won’t drop the case until they feel that it’s strong enough. Out of all the bosses, Mancuso seems to be the most hands on, so I think the indictment will come sooner rather than later.

Yeah brilliant. Barney and Dom have been boss for 15 years.
Feds take their time building those cases eh.

Or theyre shit out of luck.

Gee I wonder which one.

You don't think they have cases open on them? You're dumber than I thought, and I usually give you the benefit of the doubt

[Snakes]

There is almost no way there is not a known boss that doesn't have some kind of open case pending against them. It may be a bunch of nothing, but the whole mission of the FBI is to dismantle the families and it starts at the top. They are collecting information on these guys and looking for anything to build a case on.

[SonnyBlackstein]

You don't think they have cases open on them? You're dumber than I thought, and I usually give you the benefit of the doubt

C'mon mate, do better than base insults.

The Feds have a 'case' on every wiseguy in the city.
That is to say, they want to put them away. They're 'building a case' against ALL of them.

You cant build a 'case' on being a WG. On being a boss.
You build a case ON A CRIME.

Are the Feds watching Mikey? Of course. Are they watching Johnny Joe? Of course. But they need crimes to convict. Thats what CASES are about.


Why the 'case' on one, and not the other.


PS I now hate the word case.

[Teflon Dom]

My only guess is the feds fucking with the family. Every wiseguy in the city would be asking the same question.

Cast suspicion, tickle the wires. Can't think of anything else.

[Teflon Dom]

My only guess is the feds fucking with the family. Every wiseguy in the city would be asking the same question.

Cast suspicion, tickle the wires. Can't think of anything else.

My guess is they are already building a case against him

Possibly, but for what? He's barely out, what could he have done?

They can build a case for years. They want a boss on more than just a probation violation.

But then why nab Mancuso?

Get him off the street for a year or two while they build something bigger. I'm certain that every single LCN boss has a pending case against them, but whether or not it comes to an indictment before they die is up in the air.

Well said. The Feds won’t drop the case until they feel that it’s strong enough. Out of all the bosses, Mancuso seems to be the most hands on, so I think the indictment will come sooner rather than later.

Yeah brilliant. Barney and Dom have been boss for 15 years.
Feds take their time building those cases eh.

Or theyre shit out of luck.

Gee I wonder which one.

You don't think they have cases open on them? You're dumber than I thought, and I usually give you the benefit of the doubt

Snakes killing the usual suspects LOL

[Pogo The Clown]

Fuggetaboutit being a usual suspect.


Pogo

[Snakes]

Maybe I was too harsh in my initial response, so I'll explain. I'm obviously not an agent, but this is my understanding about how cases are opened, investigated, and ultimately brought to a conclusion:

The FBI is (obviously) tasked with investigating organized criminal groups, including LCN. Their main goal is to dismantle the LCN families and a large part of that goal is done through convicting and imprisoning the leadership of LCN families.

Let's use Mancuso as the example since he is the subject of this thread. They receive information that Mancuso is involved with the Bonanno family. The FBI later discovers Mancuso is boss of said family. They open a case file on him (they may already have one, but I want to keep it simple). They receive information about the illegal activities that Mancuso supervises, either through CW's, CI's, wiretaps, etc. They collect this information until they have enough to put it before a DA, who will then make a determination over whether or not it's a prosecutable case. The more damning the information contained in the investigative file, the better chance the DA has to recommend advancing it. If they do recommend prosecution, the evidence is presented before a grand jury where a final determination is made. If the grand jury determines there is probable cause, an indictment is issued by the Federal Department of Justice.

I'm almost certain Mancuso has a file where the FBI is accumulating source information and evidence of him being engaged in illegal activity. I'm certain the same can be said about Bellomo, although I'm sure the agents assigned to him are tasked with a much more difficult investigation considering the contrasting natures of Mancuso and Bellomo's leadership styles.

Remember in the Sopranos when the agent told Adriana "it took years to build a case against Joe Massino"? Well, she was right. It sometimes takes years. Years of accumulating information and collecting evidence. The FBI wants to make sure that they have enough there to make a prosecutable case against their target. Sometimes it's shorter than "years." Sometimes it never happens. But there are almost certainly pending cases open against the bosses/acting bosses of the Five Families, probably most of the admin, and some of the more prominent crews, members, and associates.

[slimshady_007]

My only guess is the feds fucking with the family. Every wiseguy in the city would be asking the same question.

Cast suspicion, tickle the wires. Can't think of anything else.

My guess is they are already building a case against him

Possibly, but for what? He's barely out, what could he have done?

They can build a case for years. They want a boss on more than just a probation violation.

But then why nab Mancuso?

Get him off the street for a year or two while they build something bigger. I'm certain that every single LCN boss has a pending case against them, but whether or not it comes to an indictment before they die is up in the air.

Well said. The Feds won’t drop the case until they feel that it’s strong enough. Out of all the bosses, Mancuso seems to be the most hands on, so I think the indictment will come sooner rather than later.

Yeah brilliant. Barney and Dom have been boss for 15 years.
Feds take their time building those cases eh.

Or theyre shit out of luck.

Gee I wonder which one.

IMO Barney is just very intelligent & hard to get. He was schooled by guys who were real Cosa Nostra like his father, Chin, Benny Eggs, & others. Still, Barney will probably get indicted for some racketeering case down the line. I think Dom is more of a figurehead by this point, but I could be wrong. Lore seems to be the head honcho since Frankie died.

[SonnyBlackstein]

Maybe the Feds misunderstood and thought having a case of, was a medical contagion.