gohnjotti wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2024 7:10 pm
Does anybody know if Philip Bonadonna, of the Genovese family, is a relation to the Bonadonna brothers of Bensonhurst, the Sicilian family who owned the Roll-a-Rama and the Avenue I Flea Market? Or if the Bonadonnas of Bensonhurst had any mob ties?
Where in Sicily were the Bonadonnas from the roller rink from?
Phil Bonadonna’s dad, Filippo Bonadonna St, was from Mezzojuso (his mother, Frances Baratta, was probably of mainland heritage). It’s interesting because it’s part of the same eastern/interior Palermo province area that we see many early Genovese members with ancestry from (eg, Mezzojuso is across the Ficuzza Forest from Corleone). Bonadonna Sr worked as a plasterer, which is also notable given that the Corleonese mafia network in NYC was heavily involved in the plastering and lathing industry.
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Ivan wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2024 6:34 am
Nobody actually called Jackie Cerone "The Lackey," right? That was just some dumb media thing, yes? It doesn't fit his character at all so I can't imagine anyone who actually knew him calling him that. (Unless it was some kind of ironic joke, like "Jack White.")
No. Like some of those other corny names (“Big Tuna”, “Joey Doves”), this was a media/LE creation. From everything I’ve seen people just called him “Jack” or “Jackie”.
Thanks Tony.
I think of all the corny media nicknames it might be the worst given its total failure as a descriptor. At least the others were just silly rather than the opposite of who they attempted to describe.
Newyorkempire wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2024 11:12 am
Im so afraid. Who said I believe them? Are you ok? Spiraling real good. So you believe others not just indictments??? What a legend.
It's common knowledge that Jackie DiNorscio wasn't made. The only one who apparently isn't aware of this is you. You were looking to troll, because Rooster is off his meds again, and you overstepped yet again. Face it, almost every time you post, you demonstrate how much you don't know about the mob. You need to stay at the little kid's table where you belong.
Wiseguy- have you ever been to ny and spent any time in the company of any of these guys? You discount primary sources (who could be lying but why?)and subscribe only to conteents if articles, FBI reports and god knows what else. LE reports are often inaccurate or deliberate misinformation. Reading books from lying rats are iffy. There is no way to be certain of anything in bs world of mafia. state your opinion based on the sources avail to you but don't discredit a neighborhood guy simply bc some LE report says so. i come to Deer Valley twice a year and have watched docs on mormons in Utah, spoken to several, read some books etc. Does that qualify me to make absolute statements about the Mormon community in areas like Sandy etc? Of course not. the bullsshit that the govt and informers put out there sshoudl be viewed w healthy degree of skepticism. dont assail someone who says they know joey the blade or carmine the creep. could be bullshsit but oftentimes not.
So you're yelling me I should give more credibility to nameless sources on the internet (because of their zipcode) than the feds or former mob figures?
And when it comes to the subject of DiNorscio, he was always identified across the board as an associate and never a made guy. That we're even having this conversation (again), based on him, is ridiculous.
CornerBoy has to be the dumbest poster on here and that is saying something.
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all of these rats get discredited sooner or later. Well, not all but a lot.
if you think the feds are infallible or tell the truth all the time, you're naive.
not saying you have to believe guys talking about their neighborhood but you don't have to cast aspersions or question the veracity of their statements
i was trying to type in a friendly tone, often, the written word gets lost in translation.
Pogo- i won't dignify you're invective w a response except to say don't talk back and finish mowing the lawn before your foreman gets out of his pick up
to chastise you.
Esposito was originally a DeCavalcante associate proposed for membership who was released to the Bonannos due to his relation to DeSimone, so DeSimone is a good bet.
I was reading the biography of Carlos Gambino on Wikipedia and sew that he had 4 sons. Thomas, Joseph and Phyllis are well-known, but Carlo Gambino Junior I never heard anything about.
Researching in google, I found an article in that said that he lived in Australia. That is correct?
- michele sindona connected in 1960s with three "exponents of american cosa nostra"
- i am highly doubting because i never saw the names before
- all from pittsburgh
- daniel porco vp crucible steelworks pittsburgh and board member of uranya company which later implicated in financial scandals
- ernest gengarella
- ralph vio
- last two guys make companies with sindona and supposed to have interests in las vegas casinos
- anybody knows more?
I just met a guy at a brewery whose family’s Italian side comes from northern Italy but said he was first generation because his parents docked at Ellis island, settled in Washington’s crossing, PA and eluded strongly to his uncle Dominick visconsi was being a mafioso, has anyone heard of the name visconsi, I’ve heard of Visconti but not the former.
Interesting he said this uncle of his was close to "the DeBartolo's" who's lineage (he emphasised) today owns the 49ers. Which is crazy. Generational wealth is insane especially when the generations before were Mafiosi or apart of the "partito" as Justin Cascio coined. As I was looking at the search results here under the DeBartolo name I was shocked to see Ed DeBartolo Jr. lost the team due to bribery, lmao old traditions (as Joe Bonanno would say) must die hard. This guy is in the fucking NFL Hall of Fame lmao. The sister's middle name is DeBartolo, the current owner. Just baffling stuff to me.
OmarSantista wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2024 7:49 pm
Interesting he said this uncle of his was close to "the DeBartolo's" who's lineage (he emphasised) today owns the 49ers. Which is crazy. Generational wealth is insane especially when the generations before were Mafiosi or apart of the "partito" as Justin Cascio coined. As I was looking at the search results here under the DeBartolo name I was shocked to see Ed DeBartolo Jr. lost the team due to bribery, lmao old traditions (as Joe Bonanno would say) must die hard. This guy is in the fucking NFL Hall of Fame lmao. The sister's middle name is DeBartolo, the current owner. Just baffling stuff to me.
"He" - Meaning one of our forum members actually knew the DeBartolos
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Newyorkempire wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2024 11:12 am
Im so afraid. Who said I believe them? Are you ok? Spiraling real good. So you believe others not just indictments??? What a legend.
It's common knowledge that Jackie DiNorscio wasn't made. The only one who apparently isn't aware of this is you. You were looking to troll, because Rooster is off his meds again, and you overstepped yet again. Face it, almost every time you post, you demonstrate how much you don't know about the mob. You need to stay at the little kid's table where you belong.
Wiseguy- have you ever been to ny and spent any time in the company of any of these guys? You discount primary sources (who could be lying but why?)and subscribe only to conteents if articles, FBI reports and god knows what else. LE reports are often inaccurate or deliberate misinformation. Reading books from lying rats are iffy. There is no way to be certain of anything in bs world of mafia. state your opinion based on the sources avail to you but don't discredit a neighborhood guy simply bc some LE report says so. i come to Deer Valley twice a year and have watched docs on mormons in Utah, spoken to several, read some books etc. Does that qualify me to make absolute statements about the Mormon community in areas like Sandy etc? Of course not. the bullsshit that the govt and informers put out there sshoudl be viewed w healthy degree of skepticism. dont assail someone who says they know joey the blade or carmine the creep. could be bullshsit but oftentimes not.
So you're yelling me I should give more credibility to nameless sources on the internet (because of their zipcode) than the feds or former mob figures?
name a few credible "former mob figures" from the last 30 yrs? Listen to what the FBI puts out. keep doing that, boy.
And when it comes to the subject of DiNorscio, he was always identified across the board as an associate and never a made guy. That we're even having this conversation (again), based on him, is ridiculous.
