Longest running crews

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Capeci currently has Joseph Traina, son of Mario Traina, as a Gambino acting captain

It's amazing how deep mafia roots can sometimes be. More than 100 years ago, his grandfather was a significant figure in the same family.

[InCamelot]

The 116th Street crew must be one of the oldest unbroken crews outside the Gambinos. We don't have confirmation but can be almost certain Ciro Terranova was given that decina when the Genovese Family formed circa 1923. If Terranova was previously a captain in the Morello Family it could be argued the crew is even older.

There's been talk that the contemporary 116th crew may have split. In the Peter Peluso 302s, its mentioned that Sammy Black Santora 'struggled to put a crew together' and that captain Tony Salerno mentioned that power was going to Sammy Black's head -- both points implying that Santora may have been gradually forming a group on his own while Salerno was still around. This may not have been a formal decina at the time of Peluso's recollections, but it could be a situation to evolved into one.

[Brovelli]

The 116th Street crew must be one of the oldest unbroken crews outside the Gambinos. We don't have confirmation but can be almost certain Ciro Terranova was given that decina when the Genovese Family formed circa 1923. If Terranova was previously a captain in the Morello Family it could be argued the crew is even older.

There's been talk that the contemporary 116th crew may have split. In the Peter Peluso 302s, its mentioned that Sammy Black Santora 'struggled to put a crew together' and that captain Tony Salerno mentioned that power was going to Sammy Black's head -- both points implying that Santora may have been gradually forming a group on his own while Salerno was still around. This may not have been a formal decina at the time of Peluso's recollections, but it could be a situation to evolved into one.

I think also in more recent times with Barney allegedly being the boss it seems like many who would be considered part of that crew are now in positions of power that it must either have been split up or guys have been given leadership of other crews. It feels somewhat like chins close circle

[InCamelot]

The 116th Street crew must be one of the oldest unbroken crews outside the Gambinos. We don't have confirmation but can be almost certain Ciro Terranova was given that decina when the Genovese Family formed circa 1923. If Terranova was previously a captain in the Morello Family it could be argued the crew is even older.

There's been talk that the contemporary 116th crew may have split. In the Peter Peluso 302s, its mentioned that Sammy Black Santora 'struggled to put a crew together' and that captain Tony Salerno mentioned that power was going to Sammy Black's head -- both points implying that Santora may have been gradually forming a group on his own while Salerno was still around. This may not have been a formal decina at the time of Peluso's recollections, but it could've been a situation that evolved into one.

[Little_Al1991]

DiLeonardo was clear when he mentioned Traina and Garofalo that those were the longest running unbroken crews. Obviously there are other crews with roots in much older crews but they had been split or reconfigured over the years, especially in Brooklyn.

Some of those crews were mysterious even within the Gambinos. When Mario Traina died the admin had little idea who was even in the crew or who could replace him so DiLeonardo was tasked with finding a good candidate (Oxie Marino). Most if not all of the known members of that crew in the 1990s were old timers so no idea who if anyone could succeed him or what the crew consisted of in its later years.

It's interesting because Traina was D'Aquila's consigliere and may have held the title until 1931 so maybe there was a previous captain or he had a decina direct with him. He was likely a captain before becoming consigliere as he had been close to D'Aquila since the beginning, they went to Sicily together, etc. A possible earlier captain of that crew was Traina's paesan Giuseppe Giallombardo who was clearly important during the Lupo years and along with his brother Pietro being a later member of the Traina crew, Giuseppe was linked to a Salvatore Traina who is likely the same guy that witnessed Giuseppe Traina's naturalization. Pietro Giallombardo was himself someone of importance as he, along with Traina, attended the 1932 meeting where Pittsburgh boss John Bazzano was killed although Pietro was living in Trenton at the time.

I notice Pogo took Sal Franco off his list of captains. Did something come out confirming that? He was probably running his uncle Joe Arcuri's crew which would be another old crew, tracing back in some form to Vincenzo LoCicero's old Agrigentino decina. Michael said that was another crew where some of the Family leaders were like, "who is even with them?" If Franco stepped down I'd be curious if the younger Francos may have stepped up.

I'm curious if the D'Amico-Garofalo crew still exists or if it was split up in the last couple decades as at least a few guys involved have been captains after D'Amico joined the admin in the mid-2000s. Grillo, Rizzo, and Paradiso all have history with the crew.

The 116th Street crew must be one of the oldest unbroken crews outside the Gambinos. We don't have confirmation but can be almost certain Ciro Terranova was given that decina when the Genovese Family formed circa 1923. If Terranova was previously a captain in the Morello Family it could be argued the crew is even older.

The Genovese Family was appropriately formed in 1923? I still have a lot to learn about the older days so can you please elaborate on this?

[CornerBoy]

The 116th Street crew must be one of the oldest unbroken crews outside the Gambinos. We don't have confirmation but can be almost certain Ciro Terranova was given that decina when the Genovese Family formed circa 1923. If Terranova was previously a captain in the Morello Family it could be argued the crew is even older.

There's been talk that the contemporary 116th crew may have split. In the Peter Peluso 302s, its mentioned that Sammy Black Santora 'struggled to put a crew together' and that captain Tony Salerno mentioned that power was going to Sammy Black's head -- both points implying that Santora may have been gradually forming a group on his own while Salerno was still around. This may not have been a formal decina at the time of Peluso's recollections, but it could be a situation to evolved into one.

how can one see peluso's 302s? Thx

[CornerBoy]

In the Peter Peluso 302s, its mentioned that Sammy Black Santora 'struggled to put a crew together' and that captain Tony Salerno mentioned that power was going to Sammy Black's head -- both points implying that Santora may have been gradually forming a group on his own while Salerno was still around. This may not have been a formal decina at the time of Peluso's recollections, but it could be a situation to evolved into one.
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Hi inCamelot, can you explain wha you mean here? Thanks

[chin_gigante]

how can one see peluso's 302s? Thx

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[CornerBoy]

thanks, Chin