New blood in Chicago

[AnIrishGuy]

As ususal, apologies if this has already been covered in another thread, but reading Scott today he has a piece about how a pair of 'unnamed brothers' are rising fast in the Outfit, along with a lot of new blood who were inducted in the 2000s.

I wasn't aware that anyone had been made in Chicago in recent decades and had assumed that natural attrition would take care of them post DeFronzo.

Do we think this is accurate (not to question Scott)? And do we have an idea who the brothers are....

[Dr031718]

Based on his description I’m the article I think the unnamed brothers are the LoBue brothers and he couldn’t name them as they have never been named or convicted but that’s just my opinion

[AnIrishGuy]

OK, thanks....this isn't an italian name though? Or am I mistaken?

I'm also intrigued that the Outfit and also the Detroit family (same article from Scott) have managed to replenish their ranks from Italy.

[johnny_scootch]

OK, thanks....this isn't an italian name though? Or am I mistaken?

I'm also intrigued that the Outfit and also the Detroit family (same article from Scott) have managed to replenish their ranks from Italy.

It is an Italian name although very uncommon, it's found in Sicily and also the north of Italy according to Cognomix.

I do believe Chicago & Detroit have made guys over the past 15-20 years that we don't know about but that goes for all of the active families.

As they say, what we don't know could fill up a book.

[Wiseguy]

I wasn't aware that anyone had been made in Chicago in recent decades and had assumed that natural attrition would take care of them post DeFronzo.

Stick with your original assumption.

[AnIrishGuy]

I wasn't aware that anyone had been made in Chicago in recent decades and had assumed that natural attrition would take care of them post DeFronzo.

Stick with your original assumption.

Was thinking that alright, even if Scott's revelations were thought provoking.

[PolackTony]

The LoBues are Sicilian-born guys from Trabía. We have discussed them quite a lot in the main Chicago thread.

OK, thanks....this isn't an italian name though? Or am I mistaken?

I'm also intrigued that the Outfit and also the Detroit family (same article from Scott) have managed to replenish their ranks from Italy.

It is an Italian name although very uncommon, it's found in Sicily and also the north of Italy according to Cognomix.

Not that uncommon in Palermo province, specifically the towns around Corleone like Lercara (if you look for it online, it’s actually two words “Lo Bue”). The boss of Corleone in the 1930s was Calogero Lo Bue, while the capomandamento there in more recent years was Rosario Lo Bue.

[Moscone65]

It is an Italian name, if you pronounce it the American way (low-byoo or low-boo) it sounds French or something, but in proper Italian pronounciation (loe-byoo-eh) it sounds much more Italian.

[PolackTony]

Lo BOO-eh. “Bùe” is Italian for an ox, the surname was originally a nickname given to a guy to say he was strong “like an ox” and then became a familial name over time.

[johnny_scootch]

Not that uncommon in Palermo province, specifically the towns around Corleone like Lercara (if you look for it online, it’s actually two words “Lo Bue”).

Yes you're right when I searched in cognomix without the space between the O and B it registered 9 families with that name in Sicily but with the space it shows 290 families and quite a few more in the northern provinces also.

[PolackTony]

Not that uncommon in Palermo province, specifically the towns around Corleone like Lercara (if you look for it online, it’s actually two words “Lo Bue”).

Yes you're right when I searched in cognomix without the space between the O and B it registered 9 families with that name in Sicily but with the space it shows 290 families and quite a few more in the northern provinces also.

A lot of the people in the North with that surname are likely due to internal migration from Sicily to the North in the decades after WW2. Possible though that the name was of Northern origin from the Norman era though, as when the Saracens were forcibly expelled from the Monti Sicani around Corleone, that section of interior Palermo province was largely resettled by “Lombardi” from Northern Italy (mainly people form Liguria and Piemonte, hence the local dialetto around Corleone in the past showing strong northern derived traits from Gallo-Italic).

Very common of course that after immigrating to the US, Italians with surnames that are two words will have it written as one word in documents (probably due to confusion here where someone might mistakenly read the two words as separate names).

Di Diana -> Didiana

Lo Monte -> Lomonte

Lo Íacono -> Loiacono

[Ivan]

Based on his description I’m the article I think the unnamed brothers are the LoBue brothers and he couldn’t name them as they have never been named or convicted but that’s just my opinion

Yeah he knows about the LoBues, has even mentioned them on here. He can't name them because they've never even been arrested AFAIK and they're rich with the resources to sue etc.

He has to be careful with that sort of thing on his paysite, he even had Louie Rainone personally contact him and object to him naming Louie.

[B.]

The idea that the LoBues are newer Chicago members originally comes from Rick's contact and Tony did deeper research that added weight to their mafia connections.

[Ivan]

The idea that the LoBues are newer Chicago members originally comes from Rick's contact and Tony did deeper research that added weight to their mafia connections.

That's where I first saw it too but it's been a rumor I've heard from people who have no connection to this forum for a while now, so I don't think it's just because of Rick's guy that it's out there. (One really weird example of this is a YouTube comment section with some guy berating Solly D's son about it.)

Speaking of Rick's guy, that episode was the most interesting thing I've seen on this forum. I've read it multiple times. Everyone should check it out. (Just do a search for author "Antiliar" and words like "source", "talked", or "chatted", but in combination with the word "dumping", and that will bring most of it up.)

[Shellackhead]

Not that uncommon in Palermo province, specifically the towns around Corleone like Lercara (if you look for it online, it’s actually two words “Lo Bue”).

Yes you're right when I searched in cognomix without the space between the O and B it registered 9 families with that name in Sicily but with the space it shows 290 families and quite a few more in the northern provinces also.

A lot of the people in the North with that surname are likely due to internal migration from Sicily to the North in the decades after WW2. Possible though that the name was of Northern origin from the Norman era though, as when the Saracens were forcibly expelled from the Monti Sicani around Corleone, that section of interior Palermo province was largely resettled by “Lombardi” from Northern Italy (mainly people form Liguria and Piemonte, hence the local dialetto around Corleone in the past showing strong northern derived traits from Gallo-Italic).

Very common of course that after immigrating to the US, Italians with surnames that are two words will have it written as one word in documents (probably due to confusion here where someone might mistakenly read the two words as separate names).

Di Diana -> Didiana

Lo Monte -> Lomonte

Lo Íacono -> Loiacono

Never seen the Lo Íacono one.