General Mob Questions

[chin_gigante]

Without conspiracy or speculation are there any definitive cases where a member got killed for not coming in.

Joe Sodano

[Pogo The Clown]

Louie DiVono


Pogo

[gohnjotti]

Without conspiracy or speculation are there any definitive cases where a member got killed for not coming in.

Frank Abbatemarco. While it's not without some speculation, I believe the general consensus is that Joseph Peraino Sr. and Jr. were also targeted for murder for the same reason.

[Honk]

One would think that having to kick up at all leaves a bad taste in the mouth of a lot of gangsters. Especially those who like to earn mainly by stealing,who are used to taking,not giving
Then you might get situations where some guy you never met gets put as boss. Maybe a guy the crew doesn't think deserves to be boss and who got the job through some kind of nepotism. And now this boss is going to be taking cuts of these guys
And doing what with the money? Spending it all on his own comforts of life?
Maybe if it went for the common good of the crew,such as taking care of families of stand up guys in prison

It’s a tax…..nobody likes paying them, gangster or legit.

[Aristotle123]

One would think that having to kick up at all leaves a bad taste in the mouth of a lot of gangsters. Especially those who like to earn mainly by stealing,who are used to taking,not giving
Then you might get situations where some guy you never met gets put as boss. Maybe a guy the crew doesn't think deserves to be boss and who got the job through some kind of nepotism. And now this boss is going to be taking cuts of these guys
And doing what with the money? Spending it all on his own comforts of life?
Maybe if it went for the common good of the crew,such as taking care of families of stand up guys in prison

It’s a tax…..nobody likes paying them, gangster or legit.

Not wanting to pay wasn't as much the point as who they had to pay,and what the money was used for
But you are right that its no different than everybody else often paying taxes to underserving politicians spending it on themselves
That said, guys who owned businesses who paid bosses,and who also paid their taxes to government,were getting taxed twice
Of course,I realize that many of these guys didn't always pay taxes.

[Little_Al1991]

Valachi testimony included him claiming that Vito “controls the power in the Gambino and Lucchese family” he also stated that Vito is the boss of bosses but in a under the table circumstance

Has this been debunked? I don’t think that this is true

[motorfab]

Does anyone have the exact date of death of Francesco Garofalo (Joe Bonanno's underboss)? It seems he died in 1968, but I'm trying to find out when