One would assume it's passed around to members of the other three families. The DeCavalcantes have had documented dealings with all Five Families in the 21st century.chin_gigante wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2024 3:08 pmIn 2010, Scoops Licata was on tape talking about how he still passed the names of guys he proposed to the Gambino and Genovese families but not to the others.SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2024 12:24 pm Do Philly, DeCavs and NE have to pass round a list? Or the 5 don't give a f outside of NYC
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Angelo Loiacono and Louis Barbusca two new ones just updated. New to me at least
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New post on Dominick Cappolla.
Interesting that JD seems to imply that Paul 'Paulie Lefty' Della Universita was a made member.
The April 1974 report also mentions John Caputo and Vincent Potenza as members of Generoso's crew. Anyone know if they were actually with another family ?
Interesting that JD seems to imply that Paul 'Paulie Lefty' Della Universita was a made member.
The April 1974 report also mentions John Caputo and Vincent Potenza as members of Generoso's crew. Anyone know if they were actually with another family ?
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New post about Peter Giammona, Los Angeles Crime Family member
https://lcnbios.blogspot.com/2024/06/pe ... geles.html
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Really interesting that he was in Newark in the mid-1930s before the Newark family broke up
Also cool that this article confirms that Salvatore Cammarata was a member
Also cool that this article confirms that Salvatore Cammarata was a member
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Didn't realize Salvatore was Alex Camarata's brother. Maybe Joel has mentioned it and I missed it but back before anyone had dug in it was assumed he was Nello Cammarata's brother which was disproven a while back but this is even more interesting.
The Misuraca clan is like the perfect microcosm of the mafia phenomenon -- originally tied to St. Louis, but ended up in Flint, Newark, Florida, and California with ties if not affiliation with the local Families in each location. Went all the way to the admin of the Colombos and were involved in some violence but overall extremely low-key and not big arch-criminals. To paraphrase Gentile, everything they did in life was mafia.
I assume Pietro Misuraca Sr. was a member as Peter Jr. said he was arranged to marry a woman in Detroit but she instead married a Detroit boss a short time later who died early on and seems to have been Sam Catalanotte. I'm not sure who she was but between arranging marriages in prominent mafia circles and virtually all of his sons/relatives being members or associate it's a good bet Pietro was a Sicilian mafia member who transferred in America.
Their hometown Giardinello doesn't come up much but it's obvious why they were in St. Louis and especially Michigan as it is by Terrasini, Cinisi, Partinico/Borgetto, Montelepre, and the gateway to the Trapani coast. In Flint they were with a Trapanese faction from towns like Monte San Giuliano and San Vito lo Capo. On one hand it doesn't exactly fit the Colombos, moreso the Bonannos, but it isn't far from Carini which was hugely important in the Colombos (never seen anything linking Misuraca to the Brooklyn Carinesi though) and you also have Profaci's close relationship to Detroit.
The Misuraca clan is like the perfect microcosm of the mafia phenomenon -- originally tied to St. Louis, but ended up in Flint, Newark, Florida, and California with ties if not affiliation with the local Families in each location. Went all the way to the admin of the Colombos and were involved in some violence but overall extremely low-key and not big arch-criminals. To paraphrase Gentile, everything they did in life was mafia.
I assume Pietro Misuraca Sr. was a member as Peter Jr. said he was arranged to marry a woman in Detroit but she instead married a Detroit boss a short time later who died early on and seems to have been Sam Catalanotte. I'm not sure who she was but between arranging marriages in prominent mafia circles and virtually all of his sons/relatives being members or associate it's a good bet Pietro was a Sicilian mafia member who transferred in America.
Their hometown Giardinello doesn't come up much but it's obvious why they were in St. Louis and especially Michigan as it is by Terrasini, Cinisi, Partinico/Borgetto, Montelepre, and the gateway to the Trapani coast. In Flint they were with a Trapanese faction from towns like Monte San Giuliano and San Vito lo Capo. On one hand it doesn't exactly fit the Colombos, moreso the Bonannos, but it isn't far from Carini which was hugely important in the Colombos (never seen anything linking Misuraca to the Brooklyn Carinesi though) and you also have Profaci's close relationship to Detroit.
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Another Colombo member who was a part of this clan was Angelo Speciale.
His mother’s brother Philip Tinervia was married to John Misuraca’s sister Angelina.
Additionally, his wife Rose Pezzino was a first cousin to Alex & Sam Cammarata. Her mother Girolama and their father Andrea were siblings.
His mother’s brother Philip Tinervia was married to John Misuraca’s sister Angelina.
Additionally, his wife Rose Pezzino was a first cousin to Alex & Sam Cammarata. Her mother Girolama and their father Andrea were siblings.
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From a new post about the Colorado family:
Very interesting info that conflicts with previously available information.
It seems very unlikely that Clyde Smaldone was a captain, because of how few members there were and him being alienated from the family because of his issues with his brothers.
Checkers being a captain is weird, outside of the limited membership issue. Who was naming Clarence to acting boss if he wasn't the boss? When Spinuzzi was in Pueblo County Jail for his gambling case, he didn't name any acting boss (at least not one that Joe Salardino mentioned to Bompensiero in August 1974) and the family membership did not change between these points.
Eugene Smaldone was seemingly out by the time Spinuzzi died and it is clear that he was the successor, though maybe he was still in Leavenworth as BOP records don't cover the 1970s and he had pled out to additional charges in October 1974. Maybe their source meant "capo" as boss and there was some confusion from that?
Also strange that Vincenzo Colletti is listed as the consigliere - Joe Salardino was IDing his brother Gus as being in the position less than 18 months earlier and we know Colletti had been inactive for several years. Joe replacing Gus under a Smaldone admin makes sense, given he was a Denver guy and close with that group.
Paul Villano eventually replaced him after he died, with the 1982 indictment identifying him as the consigliere but there is no clear date for that changeover. There is a 1984 report discussing the 1982 case where Villano is actually identified as a captain (not the consigliere) and I wonder if that's carried over from the 1970s when Salardino was still alive.
Very interesting info that conflicts with previously available information.
It seems very unlikely that Clyde Smaldone was a captain, because of how few members there were and him being alienated from the family because of his issues with his brothers.
Him being the underboss also seems improbable, given that Clyde was saying in the 1990s that his problems with Eugene were never resolved. Clarence was identified as being in the position by 1981 but was probably already the underboss shortly after the changes following James Spinuzzi's death.Notes
- Consigliere Joseph Salardino died in 1978.
- By March 1980 the hierarchy had shifted, with Captains Eugene and Clyde Smaldone identified as official Boss and Underboss respectively. Former Acting Boss Clarence Smaldone and four others (one already deceased) were listed as Soldiers. Included in this group was Paul Villano, who was named Consigliere by 1985.
Checkers being a captain is weird, outside of the limited membership issue. Who was naming Clarence to acting boss if he wasn't the boss? When Spinuzzi was in Pueblo County Jail for his gambling case, he didn't name any acting boss (at least not one that Joe Salardino mentioned to Bompensiero in August 1974) and the family membership did not change between these points.
Eugene Smaldone was seemingly out by the time Spinuzzi died and it is clear that he was the successor, though maybe he was still in Leavenworth as BOP records don't cover the 1970s and he had pled out to additional charges in October 1974. Maybe their source meant "capo" as boss and there was some confusion from that?
Also strange that Vincenzo Colletti is listed as the consigliere - Joe Salardino was IDing his brother Gus as being in the position less than 18 months earlier and we know Colletti had been inactive for several years. Joe replacing Gus under a Smaldone admin makes sense, given he was a Denver guy and close with that group.
Paul Villano eventually replaced him after he died, with the 1982 indictment identifying him as the consigliere but there is no clear date for that changeover. There is a 1984 report discussing the 1982 case where Villano is actually identified as a captain (not the consigliere) and I wonder if that's carried over from the 1970s when Salardino was still alive.
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Another post from LCNBios from yesterday on the Colorado family with an updated chart from 1980.
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Picture of Christy Tick and some info on him allegedly taking the rape charge for “Joe Palisades” Rosato which led to his rise.
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While I never had any illusions about alleged "honor" in the mafia, but if that was the case, Furnari must have been really a submissive piece of sh#t to take the charge for a rapist. Not even for a killer, but for a rapist. Disgusting...Southshore88 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 6:27 am Picture of Christy Tick and some info on him allegedly taking the rape charge for “Joe Palisades” Rosato which led to his rise.
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Frank Manzo blocked Al D’Arco from getting made his first time proposed and he tried to do it again the second time he was proposed but Joe Schiavo who was sponsoring D’Arco reached out to Joe Rosato to resolve the matter which he did and D’Arco was made.
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Was a reason given?johnny_scootch wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 2:59 pm Frank Manzo blocked Al D’Arco from getting made his first time proposed and he tried to do it again the second time he was proposed but Joe Schiavo who was sponsoring D’Arco reached out to Joe Rosato to resolve the matter which he did and D’Arco was made.
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Manzo said something like 'he's nothing but an ice cream salesman' but by the second time around D'Arco had done some time and expanded his criminal repertoire. Joe Reese pushed for him and Joe Palisades got him across the finish line. This is all from D'Arco's book.SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 3:13 pmWas a reason given?johnny_scootch wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 2:59 pm Frank Manzo blocked Al D’Arco from getting made his first time proposed and he tried to do it again the second time he was proposed but Joe Schiavo who was sponsoring D’Arco reached out to Joe Rosato to resolve the matter which he did and D’Arco was made.