General Mob Questions

[DPG]

There was a book released about the St. Louis Mafia history, I don't remember the name but I believe Antiliar is in touch with him. It might also go into the other groups. Ask him.

Antiliar is Richard Warner, I don't remember his RD handle but I believe you and him spoke before. He co-authored the article I referred you to.

That the book i read lol Gangs of St Louis

[SonnyBlackstein]

I believe he was in prison during the war. Not sure if he still held his Capo rank at the time or what role he played from behind bars.


Pogo

Thanks Pogo

Is there any info out there regarding his affiliation during the war? Persico/Orena?

Cheers

[HairyKnuckles]

I believe he was in prison during the war. Not sure if he still held his Capo rank at the time or what role he played from behind bars.


Pogo

Thanks Pogo

Is there any info out there regarding his affiliation during the war? Persico/Orena?

Cheers

He was demoted in the mid 1980s to soldier so he was not a skipper at the time of the conflict. He was on the Orena side. Capeci reported some years ago about Franzese ordering some former associates (Frank Cestaro, Louis Fenza and Frank Castignaro) dead because they had switched from the faction aligned with Orena to the one loyal to Carmine Persico.

[Pogo The Clown]

Thanks HK. Do you know who was the Capo of his Crew during this era?


Pogo

[Hailbritain]

Was Salvatore “Sally the Sheik” Mussachio not franzese's captain before that crew was split between Mussachio, John “Sonny” Franzese and Joseph Colombo.

[Hailbritain]

Sorry , u want his capo when he was demoted in the 80s

[HairyKnuckles]

Thanks HK. Do you know who was the Capo of his Crew during this era?


Pogo

Was Salvatore “Sally the Sheik” Mussachio not franzese's captain before that crew was split between Mussachio, John “Sonny” Franzese and Joseph Colombo.

Yeah, Mussachio´s crew was split between him, Franzese and Colombo in 1962. After Franzese´s conviction in late 1960s, his crew was diminished and by the late 1970´s, all his former crew members had been assaigned to other captains. His son Michael was granted a transfer from Andy Russo´s crew in around 1979/1980 to be under his father and he was the only made guy under Sonny at that time. But also Michael left his crew eventually when he was given his own crew to run in 1982. Sorry, I don´t know who Sonny´s captain was after his demotion in 1984. Would be interesting to know.

[Hailbritain]

Well HK , I'm shocked and stunned you don't know ha , I'm sure we can work it out by a process of elimination

[Hailbritain]

Is it possible that sonny could have been put under his son ??

[Manf]

Does anyone have any info on Crea ?
Is he from Yonkers or the Bronx?
When was he made? Who's crew was he with ? Was he ever a captain? Etc

[Pogo The Clown]

He was a Capo from 1990-1998/9. He took over the Castaldi-Luongo Crew so that is probably the crew he came up in and was made into.


Pogo

[Manf]

So did Mike Salerno and Luongo lead two separate crews? Who took over after Buddy was killed ?

[Pogo The Clown]

So did Mike Salerno and Luongo lead two separate crews? Who took over after Buddy was killed ?

Yeah they were two seperate crews. Joseph Giampa took over for Salerno after he was killed in 1990. Samual “Sammy Bones” Castaldi took over for Luongo (Anthony Ciccone may have ran the crew briefly in between). Crea took over for Castaldi.


Pogo

[Manf]

Very cool thanks. The Bronx Lucchese crews have always been a bit unclear for me. So many big time players from that faction. Did Matty Madonna take over Crea's crew when Crea was away?

[Pogo The Clown]

Anthony “Blue Eyes” Santorelli took over his crew when he was promoted to UnderBoss.


Pogo