5 Family's Making Ceremonies

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In 1973 a Genovese CI reported that East Harlem crew member Alexander 'Al Ross' Rosato 'made' Joseph 'Joe Stutz' Tortorici, Antonio 'Buckaloo' Ferro, and Louis 'Louie Dome' Pacella.

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Additionally, Gambino member Joseph 'Jo Jo' Manfredi (1924 - 2002) was made around 1955-1957 and sponsored by Frank Luciano.

[chin_gigante]

In the VladTV interview they're doing to promote their upcoming book, Mike Campi and Dan Dorsky talk about how they have a recording of Salvatore Aparo saying he was inducted at the same ceremony as Vincent Gigante. Gigante didn't like Aparo because the member who proposed Aparo slapped Gigante's father-in-law years prior.

https://youtu.be/xTQIRF19GEM?si=TT2yhkfeO8ATB3WZ

[Snakes]

In the VladTV interview they're doing to promote their upcoming book, Mike Campi and Dan Dorsky talk about how they have a recording of Salvatore Aparo saying he was inducted at the same ceremony as Vincent Gigante. Gigante didn't like Aparo because the member who proposed Aparo slapped Gigante's father-in-law years prior.

https://youtu.be/xTQIRF19GEM?si=TT2yhkfeO8ATB3WZ

Do we know what year Gigante was made? I know it's always been assumed he was made after shooting Costello, but I wasn't sure if there was evidence indicating it was before that.

[JohnnyS]

Gambinos

2004/5:
John Ruggiero

[slimshady_007]

In the VladTV interview they're doing to promote their upcoming book, Mike Campi and Dan Dorsky talk about how they have a recording of Salvatore Aparo saying he was inducted at the same ceremony as Vincent Gigante. Gigante didn't like Aparo because the member who proposed Aparo slapped Gigante's father-in-law years prior.

https://youtu.be/xTQIRF19GEM?si=TT2yhkfeO8ATB3WZ

Do we know what year Gigante was made? I know it's always been assumed he was made after shooting Costello, but I wasn't sure if there was evidence indicating it was before that.

Great question, I really wonder when Gigante was made

[Snakes]

In the VladTV interview they're doing to promote their upcoming book, Mike Campi and Dan Dorsky talk about how they have a recording of Salvatore Aparo saying he was inducted at the same ceremony as Vincent Gigante. Gigante didn't like Aparo because the member who proposed Aparo slapped Gigante's father-in-law years prior.

https://youtu.be/xTQIRF19GEM?si=TT2yhkfeO8ATB3WZ

Do we know what year Gigante was made? I know it's always been assumed he was made after shooting Costello, but I wasn't sure if there was evidence indicating it was before that.

Great question, I really wonder when Gigante was made

Yeah, the books were closed pretty soon after Costello was shot, but by all indications Gigante was made well before they reopened in the late 70s. So he either got made immediately after the attempted hit or was already made. This meant he would have been made by his late 20s, which seems young but not necessarily for that time period.

[aray22]

Gambinos

2004/5:
John Ruggiero

The son that passed away right?

[JohnnyS]

Gambinos

2004/5:
John Ruggiero

The son that passed away right?

Yeah in 2008. He was an associate around Gotti jr.

[johnny_scootch]

In the VladTV interview they're doing to promote their upcoming book, Mike Campi and Dan Dorsky talk about how they have a recording of Salvatore Aparo saying he was inducted at the same ceremony as Vincent Gigante. Gigante didn't like Aparo because the member who proposed Aparo slapped Gigante's father-in-law years prior.

https://youtu.be/xTQIRF19GEM?si=TT2yhkfeO8ATB3WZ

Do we know what year Gigante was made? I know it's always been assumed he was made after shooting Costello, but I wasn't sure if there was evidence indicating it was before that.

Great question, I really wonder when Gigante was made

Yeah, the books were closed pretty soon after Costello was shot, but by all indications Gigante was made well before they reopened in the late 70s. So he either got made immediately after the attempted hit or was already made. This meant he would have been made by his late 20s, which seems young but not necessarily for that time period.

I have no evidence to point either way but I’d think especially in those days if you were going to wack a boss you’re sending a made guy not an associate. If things go wrong and the guy gets caught you want that reassurance he’s not going to talk. So I’d lean toward Gigante already having his button by that time.

[aray22]

Gambinos

2004/5:
John Ruggiero

The son that passed away right?

Yeah in 2008. He was an associate around Gotti jr.

Surprised it took him that long to get made. Does that mean Angelo Jr. was straightened out before him?

[JohnnyS]

Gambinos

2004/5:
John Ruggiero

The son that passed away right?

Yeah in 2008. He was an associate around Gotti jr.

Surprised it took him that long to get made. Does that mean Angelo Jr. was straightened out before him?

Angelo Jr was made late 90s I think. Could've been very early on in the 2000s.

[Sullycantwell]

In the VladTV interview they're doing to promote their upcoming book, Mike Campi and Dan Dorsky talk about how they have a recording of Salvatore Aparo saying he was inducted at the same ceremony as Vincent Gigante. Gigante didn't like Aparo because the member who proposed Aparo slapped Gigante's father-in-law years prior.

https://youtu.be/xTQIRF19GEM?si=TT2yhkfeO8ATB3WZ

Do we know what year Gigante was made? I know it's always been assumed he was made after shooting Costello, but I wasn't sure if there was evidence indicating it was before that.

I believe in Gigante's files an informant (likely Valachi) reported Gigante was made immediately following the Costello shooting. Ill try and find it.

[Pmac2]

Guessing Gigante was made in 1954. About the same year as frank locascio was made in the gambinos. Or 1950 when Greg scarpa was made. They were the same age. Guys got made in there early 20tys back then

[Sullycantwell]

Here's the file. it says that the informant is a local bookmaker and as we can see he isn't that knowledgeable, so definitely need a better source to confirm.