1975 Active Members

[Snakes]

I'd say about 50 to 60 "active" members for Chicago at this time.

[Adam]

I'd say about 50 to 60 "active" members for Chicago at this time.

Thanks. I realize I'm floating a weird scenario. There are probably 1000 associates working for the Outfit in 1975. But how many could work and be introduced in let's say Florida to another Family member. I like your 60ish number.

[cavita]

I was thinking about this the other day when the Hoffa disappearance happened in 1975. An article talking about the separate families talking about it and emissaries being sent to give updates. Detroit talking to New York, Buffalino talking to people, emissaries from Detroit sent to St. Louis and Chicago. I think of it as maybe the last time that the LCN families were actually pretty connected at least in terms of communication. But I was thinking about the actual active made membership of the families at that time. There's a huge influx of members after that in 1975/1976/1977, so I wondered what the "active" membership might have been for the families across the country right before the large swath of initiation ceremonies started.

Detroit: 25-30?
Chicago: 60?
Cleveland: 10?
Milwaukee: 10?
St Louis: 10?
Kansas City: 15?
Los Angeles: 15-20?
San Jose: 8?
San Francisco: 3?
New Orleans: 5?
Philadephia: 40?
New England: 50?
Buffalo: 40?
Tampa: 10?
New Jersey: 50?
New York(this gets complicated). Couldn't really guess. Active made members in all honesty I'm thinking around 500-600.

So just something to think about. I really find it interesting where in the 1970s, a lot of the smaller families were clearly going away, but the structure nationally was still functioning. I mean, when you have New England reaching out to Lanza about the Barboza murder in advance(according to Fratianno) in 1976, there's still this overall network of communication.

Rockford for sure had 11 known members but from 1968-1972 they made new members from the Sicilian immigrants their underboss sponsored per FBI files. They've historically had 20-25 members so perhaps around 1975 they were closer to 20 made members.

Thanks Cavita. Sorry I skipped over Rockford. I realize I skipped over a couple other places like Pittsburgh. Do you have a general idea of that 20 or so number you would consider active?

Boss Joe Zammuto
Underboss Frank Buscemi
Consigliere Joe Zito
Capo Charles Vince
Soldiers: Phil Priola
Phil Emordeno
Sebastian Gulotta
Joe Maggio
Alfred Cicero
Frank Correnti
Tony Basile

As for the Sicilians that were supposedly made during this time it would just be pure conjecture but I do have some suspicious as to who they were.

[Snakes]

I'd say about 50 to 60 "active" members for Chicago at this time.

Thanks. I realize I'm floating a weird scenario. There are probably 1000 associates working for the Outfit in 1975. But how many could work and be introduced in let's say Florida to another Family member. I like your 60ish number.

To be honest, I could see the number as low as 30-40, but it really depends on how many of the guys on the '73 list are accurate and how many guys *weren't* on the '85 list, but were made by '75. We just know so little definitive info about the family and who was made and at what time.