providence news

[mr white]

Seems like ray Jr wanted salemme and the revere crew to take out Vinny Ferrera. Wild bill grosso must have told Springfield ma member Gaetano Milano who double crosses ray Jr n bill. He tells Jr russo and them. They strike first. Milano kills wild bill and russo has salemme shot but quintana from revere was supposed to be with him at the time

Thanks, PMAC! I'll get to sit and read these files in a few days. Quintana ends up tight with Spagnolo in Revere, still is, has been for a long time as I understand it. Ferrera and friends kill Jimmy Limoli on the street in the North End for stealing Spucky's coke. Ferrera never seemed to have problems with East Boston maybe there's something there with Spucky in the past? But Russo, Carroza, Ferrera, Romano...Ferrera seemed like a core part of the renegade faction, can't wait to read who Ray Jr. Thought was going to help him out from eastie with Fererra!

[davidf1989]

Seems like ray Jr wanted salemme and the revere crew to take out Vinny Ferrera. Wild bill grosso must have told Springfield ma member Gaetano Milano who double crosses ray Jr n bill. He tells Jr russo and them. They strike first. Milano kills wild bill and russo has salemme shot but quintana from revere was supposed to be with him at the time

Thanks, PMAC! I'll get to sit and read these files in a few days. Quintana ends up tight with Spagnolo in Revere, still is, has been for a long time as I understand it. Ferrera and friends kill Jimmy Limoli on the street in the North End for stealing Spucky's coke. Ferrera never seemed to have problems with East Boston maybe there's something there with Spucky in the past? But Russo, Carroza, Ferrera, Romano...Ferrera seemed like a core part of the renegade faction, can't wait to read who Ray Jr. Thought was going to help him out from eastie with Fererra!

Wasn't Frank Salemme Jr involved with Limoli?

[mike68]

Patsy Barone and Walter Jordan whacked Limoli without the order from Ferrara. This led to Ferrara being pissed at Barone. Limoli stole Spucky's coke when he got pissed that Salemme Jr. didn't wait for him to get back from Florida for a score. Something like that.

Did Barone get back into the life when he was released from jail? He hasn't been in the news since he got out.

[Pmac2]

Ferrera took over as capo of Donato anguilos crew probably 86. He sides with Jr russo and his brother Bobby there crews. Ray Jr is using salemme as the liasion to boston passing messages. Ray Jr wants or OKs Vinny Ferrera hit early 88. But he finds out first. The Springfield and CT guys side also with russo and Ferrera. They kill wild bill and try to kill salemme.

[davidf1989]

How about this court filing about the DiSarro case?https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap ... .150.0.pdf

[Pmac2]

Nothing to interesting in that one. We need to get more of those files the cattle rancher ponzo had. Those where full of all the shit going on in Boston in the 80tys with all the fbi infomants.

[davidf1989]

Hmmm I read the files. Interesting. I mean it's a lawyers guess cs3 is st laurent but it's definitely something.

According to this article https://www.newspapers.com/article/the- ... /94633133/ st Laurent is a possible informant as they quote a Providence tv station who heard from law enforcement sources that St. Laurant had been informing since the seventies which was the time that Raymond L. S Patriarca was the boss of the crime family.

[Pmac2]

Interesting. Gurino and mercurio I remember the fbi disclosed they were informants. St. Laurent they didn't. He was I remember at these hearings in 1999 and Howie Carr nicknamed him the enema of the state because he refused to answers questions on his 5amendment rite. But said he he took those poop pills in the morning to shit also told the court he was on methadone. He was allowed to still be in the providence mob all the way to he was indicted by the feds in 2004. Then he did like 10yrs between a few cases why he didn't flip is a mystery he could have walked free

[davidf1989]

Interesting. Gurino and mercurio I remember the fbi disclosed they were informants. St. Laurent they didn't. He was I remember at these hearings in 1999 and Howie Carr nicknamed him the enema of the state because he refused to answers questions on his 5amendment rite. But said he he took those poop pills in the morning to shit also told the court he was on methadone. He was allowed to still be in the providence mob all the way to he was indicted by the feds in 2004. Then he did like 10yrs between a few cases why he didn't flip is a mystery he could have walked free

Thanks for your reply and it looked like St. Laurent was a big bookmaker according to this article https://www.newspapers.com/article/pres ... 129752792/ and that according to this article https://www.newspapers.com/article/jour ... 110393677/ St Laurent once shared the same lawyer with Nicholas Bianco, Ouimette and Raymond Patriarca.

Was Guarino connected to the New York Mafia?

[miggy9]

Interesting. Gurino and mercurio I remember the fbi disclosed they were informants. St. Laurent they didn't. He was I remember at these hearings in 1999 and Howie Carr nicknamed him the enema of the state because he refused to answers questions on his 5amendment rite. But said he he took those poop pills in the morning to shit also told the court he was on methadone. He was allowed to still be in the providence mob all the way to he was indicted by the feds in 2004. Then he did like 10yrs between a few cases why he didn't flip is a mystery he could have walked free

Thanks for your reply and it looked like St. Laurent was a big bookmaker according to this article https://www.newspapers.com/article/pres ... 129752792/ and that according to this article https://www.newspapers.com/article/jour ... 110393677/ St Laurent once shared the same lawyer with Nicholas Bianco, Ouimette and Raymond Patriarca.

Was Guarino connected to the New York Mafia?

I believe he was. Kenny handled a lot of the porn in Providence. He would host the Gambino's when they came to visit. John Sr would come up with Natale who I believe had a relationship with Kenny. Almost positive.

[Pmac2]

Yep. He was in charge of all the porn. I believe he was actually considered gambino associate going back to when DB was the time square porn king and gurino was his guy in new england.

[davidf1989]

Yep. He was in charge of all the porn. I believe he was actually considered gambino associate going back to when DB was the time square porn king and gurino was his guy in new england.

This articlehttps://www.newspapers.com/article/athol-daily-news/129761953/ mentions that Guarino was paying Richichi money.

[Pmac2]

The sit-down between salemme and the Gambino was over gurino trying to open peep shops or pornos in Boston. This is where all the suspicion came into play . Who told the fbi about the meeting in a airport hotel room in East boston. It was gurino but many put the finger at st laurent. I guess the mob cleared him when Bobby DeLuca claimed it was st laurent. He even had the ok to murder bobby DeLuca in 2006 he couldn't find anyone to do it. He was recorded asking some guys. This was after DeLuca publicly called st laurent a rat in 99 2000.

[Pmac2]

Seems like gurino is probably still alive. He was young when he was running all the porn in New england unless it was his dad. This guy's probably 70 71 today

[davidf1989]

The sit-down between salemme and the Gambino was over gurino trying to open peep shops or pornos in Boston. This is where all the suspicion came into play . Who told the fbi about the meeting in a airport hotel room in East boston. It was gurino but many put the finger at st laurent. I guess the mob cleared him when Bobby DeLuca claimed it was st laurent. He even had the ok to murder bobby DeLuca in 2006 he couldn't find anyone to do it. He was recorded asking some guys. This was after DeLuca publicly called st laurent a rat in 99 2000.

Thanks for your clarification about the meeting between Salemme and Guarino and here is the court filing from the Salemme case which mentions St. Laurent, Guarino, and Flemmi https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/2 ... s%3A511645