Francesco Del Balso Assasinated in Montreal

[stubbs]

An article behind a pay wall has a headline that the bountie on DelBalso was payable in coke.

Makes you ask the question... WHO could pay in coke? Besides Miriarchi? Does this mean Miriarchi is firmly with the sicilians and not an independent?

Was a faction of the Hells under Martin Robert trying to sieze a portion of the sportsbets? Have they abdicated that claim now?

If this conflict was over Bookmaking, who (maybe?) took the contract for coke? Gangs?

When I saw Whooley was back in the fold, I felt like Rizzutos had gained some breathing room.....

Question....WHAT Bikers gave up Del Balso? His allies like Robert, or the others that were against all of this?

Is Martin Robert' in danger now? Or will the tension ease now?

My thinking at the moment is there’s a few potential scenarios that may have occurred:

* Option 1 - Del Balso was close with the bikers, and wanted to cement that relationship by removing Rizzuto and becoming boss of the Italians. It was revenge for his belief that Rizzuto was behind the attempted hit on him, but the larger motivation was to take over everything. He didn’t inform the bikers ahead of time of his plans, and assumed with Rizzuto out of the way the bikers would fall in line. In this scenario, he underestimates the bikers loyalty to the Rizzutos and they decide to take him out.

* Option 2 - Del Balso told the bikers of his plans to take out Rizzuto ahead of time and was told to do what he had to do. However, the bikers in reality were playing it neutral and waiting to see who came out on top, in order to align themselves with the winning side. Once Rizzuto survived the attempted shooting, and once Gallo’s daughter in law gets killed, the bikers quickly realize the violence is spiraling and Del Balso is too much of a liability to side with him.

* Option 3 - The bikers are initially 100% on Del Balso’s side in his plans to takeover. With Cazzetta out of the way, new HA leader Martin Robert wants to forge his own path with a new leader of the Italians. The bikers are now closer to Del Balso than Rizzuto and realize if they support Del Balso in his coup that he’ll be more loyal to them than Rizzuto ever was as he’d be indebted to them. However, once Rizzuto survives the hit and the woman gets killed, they shift their alliances as they realize Del Balso failed in plans and the heat is too strong on everyone.

It should be noted that the bikers may have differing factions and loyalties, and they may not necessarily all want the same outcome.

Also, it wouldn’t surprise me if Montreal police approached both Rizzuto and the bikers and told them to take out Del Balso and end the war. Del Balso reportedly met with Martin minutes before he was killed. That’s extremely brazen, but less so if he already knew the police would sabotage any investigation. There were reports that Marco Pizzi was approached by the police a while back to help calm gang violence in the city, so there’s appearently prescedent. Nothing surprises me anymore when it comes to that beautiful, corrupt, chaotic city.

[antimafia]

Francesco Del Balso était sur le point d’être accusé
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/just ... accuse.php

[SonnyBlackstein]

I’d have to believe they still consider Raynald an enemy of the state

Did I read Raynald was close with the HA at one stage? Boucher?

[dixiemafia]

Did I read Raynald was close with the HA at one stage? Boucher?

Probably around the time he was close to Vito I imagine he was also close to Mom but if you remember Mom and his daughter was caught plotting to kill Raynald in prison. He’s definitely on the hit list

[SonnyBlackstein]

Probably around the time he was close to Vito I imagine he was also close to Mom but if you remember Mom and his daughter was caught plotting to kill Raynald in prison. He’s definitely on the hit list

Good info. Cheers.

[CabriniGreen]

My thinking at the moment is there’s a few potential scenarios that may have occurred:

* Option 1 - Del Balso was close with the bikers, and wanted to cement that relationship by removing Rizzuto and becoming boss of the Italians. It was revenge for his belief that Rizzuto was behind the attempted hit on him, but the larger motivation was to take over everything. He didn’t inform the bikers ahead of time of his plans, and assumed with Rizzuto out of the way the bikers would fall in line. In this scenario, he underestimates the bikers loyalty to the Rizzutos and they decide to take him out.

This one I would disagree for a couple reasons. On the other board, I said I couldn't see the Bikers getting involved in an internal Italian conflict, but I could see it over an economic asset, then like, the next day it came out they are feuding over sportsbook operations. When the Bikers were going at it, they asked the Italians not to take sides, and they obliged, even to thier own detriment..( Gervasi and the Rock Machine) I don't see the Bikers breaking that unwritten rule, and yet, this could be PRECISLY what's causing the split in the Hells at the moment.....


Edit: This next bit, I kinda echo what B has said... there is no position of " Godfather of Montreal" to ascend to... we gotta understand the structure...


I see two main "umbrellas" for what we consider "Mafia" in Montreal. The Bonnano branch/decina, which historically was dominated by Montreal based Calabrian gangsters with the central reference being the Cotroni family. It was like, home grown Italian OC, that was brought under the Bonnano banner. The Mafias main interest being managing the French Connection trade that had its primary entry point through Montreal.
There was ethnic succesion in the mafia controlled drug trade. And no, I don't mean from Calabrian to Sicilian. The language changed as far as who was controlling the trade from FRENCH to SICILIAN.
Thats when, and this is a controversial statement here, my opinion only, the Rizzutos became the central reference for ORGANIZED crime in Montreal, but it was the Caruana- Cuntreras who controlled the narcotics routes. But they wernt doing it for the Bonnano family, it was for the Sicilian Mafia. This I really feel is part of the disconnect. The Rizzutos kinda replaced the Cotronis, as the central reference for Montral OC, but they also still were kind of like proxies for the Caruana- Cuntreras and the Sicilian mafia.

See, killing Rizzuto isn't going to make you Caporegime. The people in NY have to MAKE YOU Caporegime. The organization has to do it. You can't become capo by a quantity of activity, "this much gambling territory", or " this much drug territory", or committing " this many murders".

Leo Rizzuto is more than a rackets boss. He's the leader of a constellation of familial ties that go back to Sicily. They descibe it in I think Mafia Inc...first few pages with the charts and all that. To me its like, concentric circles or some shit. The literal " INNER CIRCLE" is the family. The next " Circle", are Cattolica and Siculiana people from Agrigento, the next " Circle", are like, Montrealers, gangsters.
The family are the only ones qualified to occupy the "Executive Branch". This is how clans like the Inzerillos, Nuvolettas, Caruanas, basically all of Ndrangheta, how they operate. It's how I pegged Mannino, I started within the family clan and worked outwards.
DelBalso to me, has no relationship with NY to become capo, isn't family with the Rizzutos or the Caruanas, so he CANT really lead a network based on family when he's not family, nor is he from their neighborhoods in Sicily, there's no like, ancient foundation there he's connected to. He's not ONE OF THEM. Same for Pizzi and Barberio and whomever else......

I'm looking at Mario Sollecito, or Charlie Renda, or some up and comer we know nothing about with the right surname, a Manno, a Cammalerri, even a Sciascia.

* Option 2 - Del Balso told the bikers of his plans to take out Rizzuto ahead of time and was told to do what he had to do. However, the bikers in reality were playing it neutral and waiting to see who came out on top, in order to align themselves with the winning side. Once Rizzuto survived the attempted shooting, and once Gallo’s daughter in law gets killed, the bikers quickly realize the violence is spiraling and Del Balso is too much of a liability to. side with him.

This one I think is pretty close to spot on.... but I think there was/is a split in the Bikers as far as being at odds with the Italians.. again... the Italians stayed out of Hells Angels business/beef and the Italians seemingly abdicated any control of drug distribution in Montreal. Couldn't even get Bertolo or Scoppas territory back from the Hells. I'm sure part of the deal was the sportsbooks were the Italians domain, and they probably agreed not to cross each other's interest.... DelBalso seemed to be breaking that covenant. This to me looks to be a case of Martin Robert becoming a little too much like the Italians, a little too "Mafiosi".

* Option 3 - The bikers are initially 100% on Del Balso’s side in his plans to takeover. With Cazzetta out of the way, new HA leader Martin Robert wants to forge his own path with a new leader of the Italians. The bikers are now closer to Del Balso than Rizzuto and realize if they support Del Balso in his coup that he’ll be more loyal to them than Rizzuto ever was as he’d be indebted to them. However, once Rizzuto survives the hit and the woman gets killed, they shift their alliances as they realize Del Balso failed in plans and the heat is too strong on everyone.

Again, the split in the Hells might be over precisly supporting DelBalso in a coup attempt. The other Hells might have seen Robert and DelBalso as overstepping....

It should be noted that the bikers may have differing factions and loyalties, and they may not necessarily all want the same outcome.

Exactly.....

[antimafia]

Law enforcement in Quebec is really clamping down on the Hells Angels. Why did I post the article link, below, in this thread? IYKYK.

Le supplice de la goutte se poursuit pour les Hells Angels
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2023/ ... lls-angels

[OcSleeper]

https://www.urgelbourgie.com/en/funeral ... -del-balso

[dixiemafia]

Probably around the time he was close to Vito I imagine he was also close to Mom but if you remember Mom and his daughter was caught plotting to kill Raynald in prison. He’s definitely on the hit list

Good info. Cheers.

Anti could probably give you a lot more on Raynald but he rose through the ranks after driving Di Maulo his brother in law then became a major player in the drug game before going to prison. Like many of the protagonists in Montreal that turn on the Sicilians, he felt he was screwed over while in prison then had a few friends die that really turned him. So I’d think with the Hells pushing so much drugs back then for the Sicilians you’d think Raynald and Mom had to have had a semi close relationship at one point before he split from the Rizzutos (meaning Desjardins). He is definitely the most interesting non Italian in Montreal since he’s been an open target for so long and seems to have 9 lives

Good to chat again my friend!

[DonPeppino386]

If you're a gangster in Montreal you should probably invest in a home gym setup.

So true!

[Teflon Dom]

If you're a gangster in Montreal you should probably invest in a home gym setup.

So true!

They'd clip you on the way to pick up the equipment for the home gym, or while you sign for the amazon driver !

[OcSleeper]

Organized crime: Hells Angels at the funeral home where the mobster Del Balso was exposed
https://www.journaldequebec.com/2023/12 ... quisitions

HA Michel Lamontagne attended the funeral home where Del Balso is laid out with 3 other Hells Angels. Lamontagne was arrested last night outside Café Milano and police seized his cell phones. No charges have been filed as of yet. The HA are denying any involvement in Del Balso's murder.

[dixiemafia]

They'd clip you on the way to pick up the equipment for the home gym, or while you sign for the amazon driver !

DHL'a a package for Mr. Phillipe

[OcSleeper]

[PHOTOS] The leader of the Hells at the funeral of mafioso Francesco Del Balso
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2023/ ... -del-balso

[antimafia]

Organized crime: Hells Angels at the funeral home where the mobster Del Balso was exposed
https://www.journaldequebec.com/2023/12 ... quisitions

HA Michel Lamontagne attended the funeral home where Del Balso is laid out with 3 other Hells Angels. Lamontagne was arrested last night outside Café Milano and police seized his cell phones. No charges have been filed as of yet. The HA are denying any involvement in Del Balso's murder.

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