American mafia in 2050?

[Little_Al1991]

This post just reminded me that John Pappa could potentially end up serving more time than Sonny Franzese…
He could end up outliving the five families

The Colombos used Johnny Pappa like a rubber and look where it got him...

He killed 4 men and sell drugs and at 25 years old get life plus 45 years keeping his mouth shout. He maybe will be out only on a compassionate release when will 75-80 years old.

He’ll come home to a lifestyle that’s basically on life support by that time

[furiofromnaples]

This post just reminded me that John Pappa could potentially end up serving more time than Sonny Franzese…
He could end up outliving the five families

The Colombos used Johnny Pappa like a rubber and look where it got him...

He killed 4 men and sell drugs and at 25 years old get life plus 45 years keeping his mouth shout. He maybe will be out only on a compassionate release when will 75-80 years old.

He’ll come home to a lifestyle that’s basically on life support by that time

If he will be lucky,can die before.

[aray22]

This post just reminded me that John Pappa could potentially end up serving more time than Sonny Franzese…
He could end up outliving the five families

The Colombos used Johnny Pappa like a rubber and look where it got him...

I read that Pappa was going to be killed, had he remained on the street

This is true. Tommy Dades said Big Anthony Russo told him they were going to clip him.

[furiofromnaples]

This post just reminded me that John Pappa could potentially end up serving more time than Sonny Franzese…
He could end up outliving the five families

The Colombos used Johnny Pappa like a rubber and look where it got him...

I read that Pappa was going to be killed, had he remained on the street

This is true. Tommy Dades said Big Anthony Russo told him they were going to clip him.

They wanted to kill him and Pappa didnt flip? Was he an idiot?

[Little_Al1991]

This post just reminded me that John Pappa could potentially end up serving more time than Sonny Franzese…
He could end up outliving the five families

The Colombos used Johnny Pappa like a rubber and look where it got him...

I read that Pappa was going to be killed, had he remained on the street

This is true. Tommy Dades said Big Anthony Russo told him they were going to clip him.

Big Anthony? The one who flipped after the major 2011 bust? That’s a guy who needs to start a YouTube channel

[bluehouse]

This post just reminded me that John Pappa could potentially end up serving more time than Sonny Franzese…
He could end up outliving the five families

The Colombos used Johnny Pappa like a rubber and look where it got him...

I read that Pappa was going to be killed, had he remained on the street

This is true. Tommy Dades said Big Anthony Russo told him they were going to clip him.

They wanted to kill him and Pappa didnt flip? Was he an idiot?

JP didnt know they were going to clip him when he took the 100 years it came out like 15 years later

[furiofromnaples]

This post just reminded me that John Pappa could potentially end up serving more time than Sonny Franzese…
He could end up outliving the five families

The Colombos used Johnny Pappa like a rubber and look where it got him...

I read that Pappa was going to be killed, had he remained on the street

This is true. Tommy Dades said Big Anthony Russo told him they were going to clip him.

They wanted to kill him and Pappa didnt flip? Was he an idiot?

JP didnt know they were going to clip him when he took the 100 years it came out like 15 years later

Strange that bever tried to find a way to reduce his sentence,at least he killed 4 men including ralph scopo.

[Wiseguy]

The Mafia will be even more of a New York phenomenon than it already is.

[Ivan]

The Mafia will be even more of a New York phenomenon than it already is.

Definitely. I think it will be pretty much gone everywhere else except maybe Philly. Wiseguy I know you're as interested in the coming Demographic Winter as I am... I'm curious as to what you specifically think of my projection at the beginning of the thread. Here 'tis again:

Italian leadership and capable guys will be few in number and will be old men born between 1960 and 1985. Very few Italians under that age. Actual rackets run by Albanians and whatnot working for old Italians. NY Families half or less the size and influence they are now in terms of manpower/revenue/influence/etc. Ratio of associates to made guys much higher than now. Structure/hierarchy of NY families breaking down and becoming more of a horizontal network than a top-down hierarchy.

[Wiseguy]

The Mafia will be even more of a New York phenomenon than it already is.

Definitely. I think it will be pretty much gone everywhere else except maybe Philly. Wiseguy I know you're as interested in the coming Demographic Winter as I am... I'm curious as to what you specifically think of my projection at the beginning of the thread. Here 'tis again:

Italian leadership and capable guys will be few in number and will be old men born between 1960 and 1985. Very few Italians under that age. Actual rackets run by Albanians and whatnot working for old Italians. NY Families half or less the size and influence they are now in terms of manpower/revenue/influence/etc. Ratio of associates to made guys much higher than now. Structure/hierarchy of NY families breaking down and becoming more of a horizontal network than a top-down hierarchy.

I tend to agree with most of it.

You will be able to count the living members outside the Northeast corridor on two hands. Literally.

The New Jersey and New England families will be down to a dozen or less living members each. Philadelphia only slightly more. No more cohesive hierarchy for any of them. Each essentially a group of individual members, most of which inactive.

The New York metro area will be the only place where there will really still be the Mafia (which is more the case now than many realize). But that will be due more to the collective amount of living members in the region than any single family. There will still be five families but they'll all be half the size they are now.

The LCN will be more of a "legitimate" phenomenon, with more members essentially being legitimate or engaging in various forms of business racketeering from within ostensibly legitimate businesses.

The reason I say this isn't just legalization. I don't know how much others have considered it but there is the subject of cash. The LCN and other organized crime groups have been cash businesses for generations. But if the time comes when cash is no longer used in society, at least the way it is now, that could have major implications for them.

[NothingNew44]

Great point

[Nick Prango]

The year is 2050. On the Black Hand Forum the grandchildren of two posters, Wiseguy and NickleCity, argue with each other on the 35000th page of the “Buffalo/Ontario Mob Activity” thread if the Buffalo family still exists. Joe Todaro IV tells the media he’s 100% legitimate as his family only sells pizzas and remains the primary sponsor of the Buffalo Bills, whose fans nearly burned Buffalo to the ground in celebration after the team won the 2049 Super Bowl. The 38th Montreal mafia war begins after AI-powered extortion robots go haywire and start doing their own extortions and mob hits. Peter Tuccio is named the new Philadelphia godfather after 88 year old Skinny Joey Merlino passes away. A disheveled 99 year old Michael Franzese sits alone in a rocking chair at a retirement community in Scottsdale and mutters to no one in particular about how he was once involved in gas scams back in the eighties. A moderately sized cult takes control over large swaths of Oregon and uses an image of Nicky Scarfo as their patron saint and pray to “Saint Nicodemo” five times daily. The Bonannos are still a mess.

[bronx]

2050... the u.s.a wont be here, china will be in charge