The significance behind Lucky Luciano

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It's been awhile since I wrote that piece, but I don't think I mentioned it. BTW, there a couple things I learned since the article so I may update it one day. I continue to stand by 99% of it.

It's possible the label "National Crime Syndicate" was invented by Jay Robert Nash, maybe in his Bloodletters and Badmen book. Sifakis seems to an updated Nash. It reminds me of a big board room meeting in an old Dick Tracy or Batman cartoon with Mr. Big and various crime lords. The Cosa Nostra did have their meetings, and so did other mobs, but most of the networks were based on relationships and were usually informal. Other possible sources are journalists such Fred J. Cook and Fredric Sondern. A lot of those journalists spread as much information as they did misinformation. They're just full of sloppy research.
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Was Joe Masseria primarily killed because he had Vito bonventre killed as well as having Cola Schiro ousted back to Sicily?
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OmarSantista wrote: Wed May 03, 2023 12:10 pm Was Joe Masseria primarily killed because he had Vito bonventre killed as well as having Cola Schiro ousted back to Sicily?
As well as the slaying of Gaspare Milazzo of Detroit
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OmarSantista wrote: Wed May 03, 2023 12:10 pm Was Joe Masseria primarily killed because he had Vito bonventre killed as well as having Cola Schiro ousted back to Sicily?
I think it was an accumulation of events.

- Tommy Reina getting killed
- Salvatore D’Aquila getting killed
- Gaspar Milazzo getting killed
- Rosario Parrino getting killed (with 6 bullets rather than the 5 used on Milazzo - a dirty spot on the honor of Castellammare)
- Vito Bonventre getting killed
- The whole Cola Schiro affair

I’m guessing that by the time that Luciano met with Maranzano, he’d lined up his ducks with everyone else first.
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An accumulation of events makes sense, since usually it took a case build up of numerous offenses for one to be held in a mafia court/trial, thanks for your input.
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Valachi was also told by Maranzano that Masseria was responsible for the murder of a boss called Don Antonio who is no doubt Lombardo.

The case against him isn't why Masseria was killed though. His own loyalists killed him because he ordered them to disarm and they felt he was exhibiting weakness and turning his own people into sitting ducks. Luciano told Maranzano they killed him for their own reasons and not his.

Schiro didn't return to Sicily, he lived in Newark long after he stepped down.
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B. wrote: Thu May 04, 2023 2:00 pm Valachi was also told by Maranzano that Masseria was responsible for the murder of a boss called Don Antonio who is no doubt Lombardo.

The case against him isn't why Masseria was killed though. His own loyalists killed him because he ordered them to disarm and they felt he was exhibiting weakness and turning his own people into sitting ducks. Luciano told Maranzano they killed him for their own reasons and not his.

Schiro didn't return to Sicily, he lived in Newark long after he stepped down.
Yeah, Masseria had more than enough chickens to come home to roost, but ultimately the immediate factor that brought him down was his own men. Apart from the order to disarm, in a more general sense he had raised Lions in his home and they grew up (Luciano, Capone, Genovese). If he hadn’t been killed at the time that he was I believe they would’ve still wound up killing him under some other justification.
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