NorthBuffalo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 11:09 amPogo when will you learn that it's not just one person under multiple names who hates you and enjoys mocking you and Wiseguy? It's all of us - literally
Who's "us?" You mean you and your half-dozen aliases/personalities?
If nothing else, learn this one thing. You're simply too stupid to fool anyone each time you come back. You try and try but you just don't have the brain cells.
Look at spectrum boy discussing brain cells These evidence free allegations of everyone being the same fucking poster are really old - but I'll learn to ignore them and just keep posting. I have one name here, another at GangsterBB. I'll be honest, you are the toughest guy I've met on both forums - perhaps the entire internet.
Vknicks wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 5:34 am
To call all his post pure fiction is foolish, he was from the Bronx new lots of these guys or at least heard lots of stories and sometimes when you heard second hand some of the stories do change liek any game of telephone. I know I had discussions with him about things that happened in the 80s that have never been reported on and he knew the story. Both of our parents were from East Harlem his family moved to Pelham Bay , mine moved to Morris Park where I have been my entire life, he knew plenty of people I knew and you do hear lots of gossip and sometimes its just that and unfortunately he would report that to these boards then sometimes be proved wrong. Obviously if your not a Gangster you dont know exactly whats going on but he just passed along what he thought was credible.
It was misconstrued street gossip that his uncle was a Westside Caporegime?
I think both things can be true.
Lie about one, why would I believe you on the other....
NorthBuffalo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 11:09 amPogo when will you learn that it's not just one person under multiple names who hates you and enjoys mocking you and Wiseguy? It's all of us - literally
Who's "us?" You mean you and your half-dozen aliases/personalities?
If nothing else, learn this one thing. You're simply too stupid to fool anyone each time you come back. You try and try but you just don't have the brain cells.
Look at spectrum boy discussing brain cells These evidence free allegations of everyone being the same fucking poster are really old - but I'll learn to ignore them and just keep posting. I have one name here, another at GangsterBB. I'll be honest, you are the toughest guy I've met on both forums - perhaps the entire internet.
Thank you for proving my point. Solar used to go on about me (and others) being "on the spectrum." And here you are doing the same thing. But you keep making yourself look like an asshole with, "Who's Solar?" Give it up. Every time you've coming sneaking back under another name, you've never made it even a week before it's known who you are.
NorthBuffalo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 11:09 amPogo when will you learn that it's not just one person under multiple names who hates you and enjoys mocking you and Wiseguy? It's all of us - literally
Who's "us?" You mean you and your half-dozen aliases/personalities?
If nothing else, learn this one thing. You're simply too stupid to fool anyone each time you come back. You try and try but you just don't have the brain cells.
Look at spectrum boy discussing brain cells These evidence free allegations of everyone being the same fucking poster are really old - but I'll learn to ignore them and just keep posting. I have one name here, another at GangsterBB. I'll be honest, you are the toughest guy I've met on both forums - perhaps the entire internet.
Thank you for proving my point. Solar used to go on about me (and others) being "on the spectrum." And here you are doing the same thing. But you keep making yourself look like an asshole with, "Who's Solar?" Give it up. Every time you've coming sneaking back under another name, you've never made it even a week before it's known who you are.
Yeah totally not the same guy.
SolarSolano wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2019 12:35 pm
He's clearly on the spectrum - just being honest there. You don't talk down to people like Wiseguy on subjects like the mafia and have a deep seated need (comparable to Trump) to be right all the time without having some type of mental issue.
It's a new morning in America... fresh, vital. The old cynicism is gone. We have faith in our leaders. We're optimistic as to what becomes of it all. It really boils down to our ability to accept. We don't need pessimism. There are no limits.
Vknicks wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 5:34 am
To call all his post pure fiction is foolish, he was from the Bronx new lots of these guys or at least heard lots of stories and sometimes when you heard second hand some of the stories do change liek any game of telephone. I know I had discussions with him about things that happened in the 80s that have never been reported on and he knew the story. Both of our parents were from East Harlem his family moved to Pelham Bay , mine moved to Morris Park where I have been my entire life, he knew plenty of people I knew and you do hear lots of gossip and sometimes its just that and unfortunately he would report that to these boards then sometimes be proved wrong. Obviously if your not a Gangster you dont know exactly whats going on but he just passed along what he thought was credible.
It was misconstrued street gossip that his uncle was a Westside Caporegime?
I think both things can be true.
Lie about one, why would I believe you on the other....
Hey just curious Sonny, do you happen to have the link to either the initial lie(s) or the proof that he was lying?
Vknicks wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 5:34 am
To call all his post pure fiction is foolish, he was from the Bronx new lots of these guys or at least heard lots of stories and sometimes when you heard second hand some of the stories do change liek any game of telephone. I know I had discussions with him about things that happened in the 80s that have never been reported on and he knew the story. Both of our parents were from East Harlem his family moved to Pelham Bay , mine moved to Morris Park where I have been my entire life, he knew plenty of people I knew and you do hear lots of gossip and sometimes its just that and unfortunately he would report that to these boards then sometimes be proved wrong. Obviously if your not a Gangster you dont know exactly whats going on but he just passed along what he thought was credible.
It was misconstrued street gossip that his uncle was a Westside Caporegime?
I think both things can be true.
Lie about one, why would I believe you on the other....
Hey just curious Sonny, do you happen to have the link to either the initial lie(s) or the proof that he was lying?
No link. Suffice to say not a question his uncle wasn't a Capo with the Westside.
Vknicks wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 5:34 am
To call all his post pure fiction is foolish, he was from the Bronx new lots of these guys or at least heard lots of stories and sometimes when you heard second hand some of the stories do change liek any game of telephone. I know I had discussions with him about things that happened in the 80s that have never been reported on and he knew the story. Both of our parents were from East Harlem his family moved to Pelham Bay , mine moved to Morris Park where I have been my entire life, he knew plenty of people I knew and you do hear lots of gossip and sometimes its just that and unfortunately he would report that to these boards then sometimes be proved wrong. Obviously if your not a Gangster you dont know exactly whats going on but he just passed along what he thought was credible.
It was misconstrued street gossip that his uncle was a Westside Caporegime?
I think both things can be true.
Lie about one, why would I believe you on the other....
Hey just curious Sonny, do you happen to have the link to either the initial lie(s) or the proof that he was lying?
No link. Suffice to say not a question his uncle wasn't a Capo with the Westside.
It is actually easy to find out. Just trace Louis Pacellas brothers and their sons. A brother should have passed around 2017ish. Find the names of this deceased brother´s sons. If a name matches with the name PB said was his, then it´s possible what PB claimed is true. If not, then he lied. If any of the good researchers on here can find a name that match, I welcome that. But I have not found a name that match.
Vknicks wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 5:34 am
To call all his post pure fiction is foolish, he was from the Bronx new lots of these guys or at least heard lots of stories and sometimes when you heard second hand some of the stories do change liek any game of telephone. I know I had discussions with him about things that happened in the 80s that have never been reported on and he knew the story. Both of our parents were from East Harlem his family moved to Pelham Bay , mine moved to Morris Park where I have been my entire life, he knew plenty of people I knew and you do hear lots of gossip and sometimes its just that and unfortunately he would report that to these boards then sometimes be proved wrong. Obviously if your not a Gangster you dont know exactly whats going on but he just passed along what he thought was credible.
It was misconstrued street gossip that his uncle was a Westside Caporegime?
I think both things can be true.
Lie about one, why would I believe you on the other....
I totally get why you would think that. You may be right. I just dont see it as black n white. But happy easter. I wish you well.
HairyKnuckles wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 12:44 am
It is actually easy to find out. Just trace Louis Pacellas brothers and their sons. A brother should have passed around 2017ish. Find the names of this deceased brother´s sons. If a name matches with the name PB said was his, then it´s possible what PB claimed is true. If not, then he lied. If any of the good researchers on here can find a name that match, I welcome that. But I have not found a name that match.
Ah ok, did not know he ever said his own name or his uncle's name. "Pacella" or "Domes" doesn't match any of his posts on GBB. I'm also guessing he has said before it is his uncle on his father's side.
HairyKnuckles wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 12:44 am
It is actually easy to find out. Just trace Louis Pacellas brothers and their sons. A brother should have passed around 2017ish. Find the names of this deceased brother´s sons. If a name matches with the name PB said was his, then it´s possible what PB claimed is true. If not, then he lied. If any of the good researchers on here can find a name that match, I welcome that. But I have not found a name that match.
Ah ok, did not know he ever said his own name or his uncle's name. "Pacella" or "Domes" doesn't match any of his posts on GBB. I'm also guessing he has said before it is his uncle on his father's side.
However... I dug some deeper. If PB lied about his name, and indeed was related to Louis Pacella, one would assume he did this (naturally) for protection. I have found a Pacella that seems to fit. I will not go any deeper than that since he is not here to protect himself. I will not out him in any way. But as I said, there is a Pacella who could very well fit with what PB told all of us. If I am correct, it wasn´t his father who died 2017ish but somebody else close to him. I´ll leave it at that.
HairyKnuckles wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 12:44 am
It is actually easy to find out. Just trace Louis Pacellas brothers and their sons. A brother should have passed around 2017ish. Find the names of this deceased brother´s sons. If a name matches with the name PB said was his, then it´s possible what PB claimed is true. If not, then he lied. If any of the good researchers on here can find a name that match, I welcome that. But I have not found a name that match.
Ah ok, did not know he ever said his own name or his uncle's name. "Pacella" or "Domes" doesn't match any of his posts on GBB. I'm also guessing he has said before it is his uncle on his father's side.
However... I dug some deeper. If PB lied about his name, and indeed was related to Louis Pacella, one would assume he did this (naturally) for protection. I have found a Pacella that seems to fit. I will not go any deeper than that since he is not here to protect himself. I will not out him in any way. But as I said, there is a Pacella who could very well fit with what PB told all of us. If I am correct, it wasn´t his father who died 2017ish but somebody else close to him. I´ll leave it at that.
Hmm. Ngl, I’m always very sceptical on “the saga of the street (or neighbourhood) guys” after witnessing first hand the adulation Lenehan used to receive on the RD. It really left a bad taste in my mouth, and besides, US LCN has never been my main focus, just something I have a passing interest in. It honestly just hits so fucking sad to think people have so little in life that that’s what they feel they need to do to obtain a modicum of praise in life. The handful of guys that seemed legit over the years all gad that “meh, take it or leave it” vibe that increased their credibility a bit.
Having said that, I liked Pizza Boy/East Bronx, and like many people, used to exchange messages with him frequently. So I guess it hits a bit closer to home to think he may have been intentionally lying to the board. I kinda have faith in the guy, though. I appreciate you putting your time and effort into this, and understand not wanting to post further identifying info. Hopefully PB comes back to the boards at some point.
That solar/maxie etc shit is a prime example of the pathetic nature of it. Guys so eternally butt-hurt by either Wiseguy or Pogo that they essentially stalk them over years. Shit’s fucked up.
Anyway, I won’t derail the thread on Crea any further.
Salvatore DiSimone a/k/a Sally Bo is a member of the Luchese LCN family. DiSimone is married and has three sons, who own Supreme Cement in the Bronx. An individual named Eddie is known to actually be the main businessman in the company. DiSimone was close to Steve Crea, who in 1990, was a capo.
Crea sat on the construction panel controlled by the Luchese LCN family, along with Dominick Truscello and other members. The panel included Danny Cutaia, Pete "Rugsy" Vario, Steve Crea, and Dominick Truscello. Later on, Richard Pagliarulo replaced Truscello. The panel fixed issues with Teamsters Local 282, which was controlled by the Gambino LCN family. Local 20 was assigned to Richard Pagliarulo. Thomas Madiera and Charlie LNU were business agents for Local 20 and controlled the lunchwagons which service construction sites and control the numbers businesses at these sites.
DiSimone is a high-end loanshark and runs sports betting and other gambling operations in the Bronx with Danny Latella a/k/a Danny Squire.
In January 1991, DiSimone and the following individuals were present at Pasquale & Wong Restaurant on West Street at the corner of Horatio Street in Manhattan when Crea was made acting consigliere:
Anthony Baratta, a/k/a Bowat, Luchese capo
Frank Lastorino, a/k/a Big Frankie, Luchese capo
Dominick Truscello, Luchese capo
Frank Federico, a/k/a Pearl, acting capo Baratta Crew
Salvatore Avellino, Luchese capo
Carmine Avellino, Luchese soldier
Joseph Giampa, Luchese capo
Michael DeSantis, Luchese soldier, Lastorino Crew
Prior to the meeting, DeSantis and Thomas Carew a/k/a Tommy Irish, a trusted DeSantis associate, swept the restaurant for bugs.
Another meeting was held between DiSimone, Crea, and Truscello at a coffee shop in the Upper East Side after the meeting. DiSimone was associated with Quadrozzi Concrete Corp. and wanted to steer business to his sons.
DiSimone's Crew included: Frank Tacetta (owner of Il Gardinetto restaurant), soldier; Richard DeLuca, soldier; Frank Petrullo a/k/a Frankie Cigars, soldier; Frank Altamari, soldier; Thomas Gelardo a/k/a TJ, soldier; and Sam Castadli a/k/a Sammy Bones.
