Steve Crea

[CornerBoy]

What's funny is that Gigante not only chiseled that insanely valuable house out of Levy, but indirectly from people like Tommy James and the Shondells and other artists that Levy completely stiffed and never paid. So in a way, generations of Chin's family have been able to live well off of money stolen from legendary artists lol. Definitely blows a hole in the "they only hurt eachother" bullshit mob mythos - unless Tommy James actually enjoys playing Casinos in bumfuck USA randomly throughout the year at the age of 75

You Jew cocksucker, you buy those two pieces of property or I'll bury you.

excuse me?

[CornerBoy]

I think Pennisi’s opinions should be valued as he’s quite truthful
He has good to say about Mikey DeSantis, the man who sanctioned his death and literally had people laying on him.He has no reason to lie about Matty and even if he did, he’s shown that he won’t because he speaks well of Mikey
What he says about Matty seems to be true in my opinion.

I agree. In general.

But there are red flags. He's labeled Jonny sideburns a rat, and in his recent video he labeled John Perna a rat. Both unsubstantiated, and with serious, serious consequences. He should understand what it's like of all people to be baselessly labeled a stool pigeon. It's not a small thing.

So his experiences, whilst on the whole are great info, there is an underlying vindictiveness, and one, in my opinion has lessened his credibility to an extent.

He's putting these guys, who are still in the life, lives in jeopardy. NOT a small thing.

They put themselves in jeopardy by being in the fucking mafia. Sick of SOME of these ppl saying "he put my father in jail" "he put my brother in jail" etc. they did it to themselves. being a rat is being a disgrace not just in the mob. these ppl are naive to think that someone who will kill their best friend, sell drugs, shake ppl down etc will have a moral compass when facing 30 years LOL. good luck w that, pal. What did he say about john perna? are you talking about joe?

[AustraliaSteve]

Okay, just trying to get my head around the topic and don’t mean to derail it further; I was active on the boards around the time in question when Crea was “the future” of the Lukes.

But this is the same pizzaboy originally from GBB, yeah? Posted here as East Bronx for a time? Hasn’t been around in ages? There isn’t another pizzaboy who lost a family member some years back that was active on the boards was there?

I’m just another guy who considered myself friends with the guy. I guess hindsight being 20/20, much of what he put forth at the time hasn’t panned out. Is that on account of outright lies or as someone pointed out, just a neighbourhood guy speaking on what he saw…?

On Nadu’s podcast with Howie Santos recently, Santos spoke of drama between himself and Crea Jr. Is there any basis for that? I understand Gotti taking her shots at him, but did Santos have anything to do with the Creas?

[Wiseguy]

What's funny is that Gigante not only chiseled that insanely valuable house out of Levy, but indirectly from people like Tommy James and the Shondells and other artists that Levy completely stiffed and never paid. So in a way, generations of Chin's family have been able to live well off of money stolen from legendary artists lol. Definitely blows a hole in the "they only hurt eachother" bullshit mob mythos - unless Tommy James actually enjoys playing Casinos in bumfuck USA randomly throughout the year at the age of 75

You Jew cocksucker, you buy those two pieces of property or I'll bury you.

excuse me?

Chin to Morris Levy.

But this is the same pizzaboy originally from GBB, yeah? Posted here as East Bronx for a time? Hasn’t been around in ages? There isn’t another pizzaboy who lost a family member some years back that was active on the boards was there?

Yeah, same guy. His father was in bad health and, if I remember right, passed at one point.

[NorthBuffalo]

PB is near Delray Beach now if I remember right - I also used to speak with him frequently. He was well-acquainted with who was in Florida as well as the Bronx and even knew which Buffalo guys were down there. He seemed to know Basciano's family also knew the relatives of Milwaukee Phil Alderisio who was originally from the Bronx I guess. I wish he would come back.

[newera_212]

Lets get back to Crea or they’ll lock the thread. I may post in graveyard this week. I may not.

I kind of hope you do - you have me curious now lol

[newera_212]

Was going to put this in the Pennisi thread, but it is applicable here too I think

Did anyone see the interview on LeVecchia's show with Madonna's daughter?

Wasn't anything groundbreaking - but the subject of the trial was brought up, which she wasn't happy with and basically ended the interview shortly afterward. She said they got railroaded at the trial though and a new, very egregious piece of info she let loose was that ... John Pennisi was on the jury?! Did anyone hear her say this?

I didn't know how else to interpret what she was saying but she said there was a problem with the jury and when Tom pressed her a little bit for more, she said that Pennisi was allowed on the jury?

I don't think there's ever been a situation in the history of our legal system where someone testifying at a trial was also on the jury. Maybe I misunderstood her or she meant that there was a problem between Pennisi and someone on the jury (collusion, conflict of interest, whatever)

Wanted to see if anyone else caught this dud of an interview and heard her say this... lol. I totally get the Crea and Madonna kids trying to bring attention to the trial, to how their fathers are being treated by the BOP, etc - but I feel like if anything revolving around Pennisi is their lynchpin here, their counterpoints are very very shaky. Especially if they are trying to say that Pennsi was "allowed on the Jury"

[Allie Boy]

Did he meet with the jury? There is no way he was on the jury. I want to see that interview

[AntComello]

No way in hell he was on the jury she must of misspoke lol

[sharpieone]

People aren't just 'piling on' for no reason.

Nice guy or not he lied multiple times and presented himself as someone who he wasn't. His uncle wasn't a Capo with the Westside. Plus a million other things.

Fuck the guy. Reap what you sow.

Interesting as we never talked much Mob stuff that I knew nothing about We would sometimes meet for dinner at Angelo's and just "shoot the shit".

It's one thing to hear street gossip (creas the real power, the sons not involved etc) and get it wrong.

It's another to state your uncle was a Capodecina in the Genovese family which is a total fabrication.

Ones a mistake, the others a deliberate misrepresentation.

Oh was it confirmed Louie Domes wasn’t his uncle?

I have never heard that someone confirmed Louie dome isn’t his uncle. I never sensed he made shit up, but just took stances on Barney basically retiring or VB jr not being involved because that’s what he heard.

[newera_212]

Did he meet with the jury? There is no way he was on the jury. I want to see that interview

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Vlre-6r86w

Go to 28:30

She says "one of the fuckin' asshole informants sat on the jury... and it was John Pennisi himself"

Wonder what went through Tom's head when she said that lmao

[SonnyBlackstein]

Pay no mind

[CornerBoy]

What's funny is that Gigante not only chiseled that insanely valuable house out of Levy, but indirectly from people like Tommy James and the Shondells and other artists that Levy completely stiffed and never paid. So in a way, generations of Chin's family have been able to live well off of money stolen from legendary artists lol. Definitely blows a hole in the "they only hurt eachother" bullshit mob mythos - unless Tommy James actually enjoys playing Casinos in bumfuck USA randomly throughout the year at the age of 75

You Jew cocksucker, you buy those two pieces of property or I'll bury you.

excuse me?

Chin to Morris Levy.----- supposedbly, im sure it was implied but not spoken that way but I wouldnt know. oh wait, he resisted putting in his name (levy) ? if so, then yeah, i totally see it. i bought the levy book and the chin book but havent gotten around to reading as of yet. read first few chapters of levy and got really bored lol,

But this is the same pizzaboy originally from GBB, yeah? Posted here as East Bronx for a time? Hasn’t been around in ages? There isn’t another pizzaboy who lost a family member some years back that was active on the boards was there?

Yeah, same guy. His father was in bad health and, if I remember right, passed at one point.

[CornerBoy]

doesn't look like madonna did too much for that woman. looked like she was living in squalor. whats the pt of dealing large quantities of H if you can't live in splendor. fucking wasted his life, the fucking tard

[CornerBoy]

feel like a sucker that i read his long posts thawt were pure fiction. shame on me, I was too dumb to believe him.

should've been obvious when he would remind us how much real estate he owned, which wasn't even a big deal if i remember